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micky1mo 31st October 2017 18:40

Sammio workshop projects
 
As the forum is a little quite I though I'd list a few workshop projects I'v been working on.

The last build was a all aluminium transported body fitted to a twin turbo, 165HP, VW truck.

https://i.imgur.com/CNryvp9h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6LsNXVGh.jpg

I built it for a local guy with the promise I could use it when I wanted. :icon_mrgreen:

Been sorting this beastie out as well.

https://i.imgur.com/V7RLwGZh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IlEOUauh.jpg

It's a 1942 "K" series Austin cab with custom rear tub (tipper) sat on a Land Rover Discovery chassis utilizing the 2.5 turbo diesel engine and 4 wheel drive system.
It's nearly ready for the MOT just a few "issues" to sort out.

Finally a project I been working on for some time.

https://i.imgur.com/U6G8I1lh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4fJiqbJh.jpg

It's much like GJ's "long nose" project.
The idea was first conceived a few years back by Chris at Tribute Automotive. It's a Tribute Automotive A352 "D" type body, stretched to fit Scimitar SE5 chassis.
Over time it's evolved into rebuilt and referbished SE5A chassis fitted with a Jaguar XK40 3.2lt engine, 5 speed Getag 265 gearbox, Spax adjustable coil-over shocks all around, 4 pot vented disc's brakes up front with full disc brake conversion on the rear.

https://i.imgur.com/Y4pmjd8h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fanmYyeh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iSuTJ5Jh.jpg


This really has been a labour-of-love with many problems but when finished it really should drive, handle and stop as well as it will looks and of course it will be finished in BRG. :roll:

Speaking of BRG in true "Blue Peter" fashion here one I finished earlier .

https://i.imgur.com/O9K4dZIh.jpg

redratbike 1st November 2017 10:06

You've been a busy boy...

Paul L 1st November 2017 17:01

I do like that green and black truck. :cool:
( Especially the mating of old body to newer chassis. )

Now dust off #34 and let some kit car journalists take it for a spin.

Good luck, Paul. :)

molleur 1st November 2017 17:45

I'm loving that truck too!

micky1mo 27th November 2017 17:39

I'v spent a lot of time over the past few weeks working in this Jag project.
Fitting the bonnet left me with a large gap to fill about 12"

https://i.imgur.com/evnETZHh.jpg

I though I would be clever and got Chris at Tribute Automotive to make a small bonnet end section which I was going to bond to the existing bonnet but unfortunately the "D" type bonnet is not flat at any point and this wouldn't work.:redface:
The only solution was to build it up from scratch.:nerd: .

Firstly I cut off the original shutting edge of the bonnet and using a few fiberglass finger strips between the bonnet edge and the shutting edge joined then both together bridging the gap.

https://i.imgur.com/Y1LrJBUh.jpg

These were then fiberglassed on the underside to give them some strength and support.

https://i.imgur.com/7ULnKnah.jpg

Then some stainless steel mesh bonded in place to help form the new section.

https://i.imgur.com/7FN3yQDh.jpg

The hollow area was then built up with fiberglass matting so reducing the amount of filler needed and reducing the chance of cracking.

https://i.imgur.com/uaKtxcIh.jpg

Them a light skim of heavy duty glass filler.

https://i.imgur.com/ubAQNZch.jpg

The bonnet now flows nicely from the edge with no flat spots and I'm sure the painter will be able to make it disappear completely when he works his magic.:roll:

micky1mo 28th November 2017 19:48

The front wings was a lot easier
Another mould was taken of the front section which was then trimmed and bonded onto the edge of the existing section , you can see the new mould beside the car .
https://i.imgur.com/NS93cavh.jpg

New section fitted and roughly lined with the bonnet.

https://i.imgur.com/S1TBoWoh.jpg

molleur 28th November 2017 21:15

Lots of work there, looking good!

Paul L 30th November 2017 14:45

Micky1Mo - Your approach to extending the bonnet looks much quicker/easier/neater than when I tried to do something similar. :rolleyes:

I am sure all the extension work will disappear when the car is in paint. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)

micky1mo 30th November 2017 17:18

Spent some to on the suspension and fitted a set of TR4 wheels.

https://i.imgur.com/Dkze1jSh.jpg

It now rides at the about the right height and I think it looks the dogs do-da's. :thumb:

molleur 30th November 2017 17:28

Like the wheels!
Good job on the body too.

micky1mo 1st December 2017 17:30

As this is going to look like a racing car and be quite a quick car it might end up in a few hill climes or time trials so I want to fit good brakes.
It has 4 pot callipers and vented disc's on the front and disc on the rear so a duel line servo assisted set up was needed.

Front callipers and vented discs
https://i.imgur.com/VKWnsENh.jpg

Rear calipers
https://i.imgur.com/DypkClmh.jpg

After much trial-and-error I cut out the original SE5 body work with the pedal assembly and fitted a complete SE6 pedal assembly. :peace:

https://i.imgur.com/2twtHo8h.jpg

I couldn't use any of the original bulkhead as it meant the assembly sat too high and fouled the bonnet.
I ended up bolting it to brackets welded to the cage frame so can be removed for repair/serving ,
.
https://i.imgur.com/TgMVOxAh.jpg

Now, not only does it clear the steering column it also fits nicely under the bonnet. :flame:

lancelot link 1st December 2017 18:48

COMING ON ...Definitely the season for long noses ....

I see you have removed the front anti-roll bar ? We used to do it a lot on the Hot Rod builds using Cortina front clips etc. because it just stuck out the front and was ugly ...it didn't seem to make much difference on them anyway ..so wasn't an issue ...Can I ask why yours has gone / is it a clearance issue on the D type bonnet or something else ?

micky1mo 2nd December 2017 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancelot link (Post 92246)
I see you have removed the front anti-roll bar ? We used to do it a lot on the Hot Rod builds using Cortina front clips etc. because it just stuck out the front and was ugly ...it didn't seem to make much difference on them anyway ..so wasn't an issue ...Can I ask why yours has gone / is it a clearance issue on the D type bonnet or something else ?

The anti-roll bar is still fitted, if you look closely at the top picture you can just see the drop link (more photos to follow).
My main experience of ARB's is with 2CV based 3 wheelers.
I'v find they do make a considerable and noticeable difference on cornering and at speed, probably because of the 2CV suspension set up.:nerd:
There are many after market ARB available to fit the 2CV but funny enough I found the SE5 ARB the most effected one.

lancelot link 2nd December 2017 18:40

DOH !! Yes I can see it now ....sorry ....it was a looong day yesterday ...

micky1mo 3rd December 2017 18:11

The Jaguar engine is a EFi unit and as I have no ECU, fuel injection system or wiring harness my cheapest option is to go for a carb conversion running a plug-and-points ignition.

This engine uses a distributor but only to distribute the spark to each plug, ie; the distributor has no internals only a rotor arm.

https://i.imgur.com/V5CV14bh.jpg

I found a standard Triumph 6 cylinder distributor which has the same shaft dimensions. Actually both were LUCAS units and the shafts were identical but the Jaguar unit looked different because it had a bigger head.
I removed the drive from the Jaguar unit and machined it to fit the Triumph unit.

https://i.imgur.com/c4LFgR3h.jpg

Once I'd changed the mounting/locking plate the new distributor fitted nicely into position and turns freely about 30% so timing adjustment shouldn't be an issue .

https://i.imgur.com/w8S3nDbh.jpg

Ignition advance and retard will be done via a vacuum feed.

It time I will replace/convert this with a ACUSPARK electronic unit but for now it will do it's job and generate it's own spark 6 times per 2 revolutions of the engine as required. :amen:

The think the fuel delivery system will be a little more complicated to sort out!!!!

micky1mo 10th December 2017 10:41

I now need to look at the fuel delivery system.

I have a few choices.

Make a manifold and fit these BMW 3lt coupe carbs.

https://i.imgur.com/dKHfLcXh.jpg

Make a manifold and fit this pair Yamaha XS750 carbs.

https://i.imgur.com/INyFP34h.jpg

Or modify the existing manifold and fit this Weber carb off a Essex 3lt V6.

https://i.imgur.com/rfvmlFSh.jpg

The first two options will involve a great deal of expense. I think for the cost of having a manifold made I could buy a AC/DC welder and made the manifold myself. :smile:

I have always been a bit of a redneck so for now I'll use what I have and try and fit the Weber carb to the original manifold.
In theory I'll just block off the injection ports, remove the throttle body and replace it with as adaptor plate to which the Weber carb will be mounted. :banplease:

micky1mo 20th January 2018 15:48

Redneck solution No 1.
I started with a standard XJ40 injection manifold welded up the injection ports, removed the throttle body, fabricated a mount for a Weber 38DGAS 3lt carb so suit the existing manifold and bolted it in place.

https://i.imgur.com/gchiTngh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qx69nurh.jpg

It's a bit crude but should work. :loco:

As a back-up I have also cut-up another XJ40 manifold.

https://i.imgur.com/fxC3WwXh.jpg

The pair of XS750 bike carbs where joined together using a little aluminium light angle across the top of carb 3 and carb 4 plus a strip of 30x3 flat bar tack welded to the original carb support bracket. To my surprise this assembly weighs in at over 5kgs!!

https://i.imgur.com/iFk9ZdTh.jpg

I spaced them so carb 2 and carb 4 would line-up with port 2 and port 4.

https://i.imgur.com/Xxmtsr0h.jpg

I will now order the tube and will complete the manifold at a later date.:eusa_whistle:

micky1mo 8th March 2018 18:52

On of the big issues of this build has been the dash.
I have a very shallow space, no room for column switches and a reinforcing steel bar straight through the middle of the area. :eusa_wall:

https://i.imgur.com/7AxbCtZh.jpg

I liked the the original simple "D" type style of dash with the large rev counter and a pair of clocks. But, after a few days of trial and error I ended up with the full house.

https://i.imgur.com/Tjr1Mrhh.jpg

The lights, horn, indicators and hazards are all on the left hand side of the set-up.
The large hole to the left of the steering wheel is for a GPS style speedo as I do not have any speedo-drive from the gearbox.

I was surprised to fined the dash clocks ect was easy to read through the steering wheel.

https://i.imgur.com/lfGEMVXh.jpg

All-in-all I very pleased with the results.:rofl:

oxford1360 9th March 2018 07:01

That's rather nice, and you have every reason to be pleased.

DaveP 9th March 2018 07:20

I agree - that wrap around dash is very pleasing.

Dave

Mistrale 9th March 2018 14:37

Wow, just wow! Looks stunning!

What was the green number 34 with the MGF wheels?

micky1mo 9th March 2018 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistrale (Post 93718)

What was the green number 34 with the MGF wheels?

That's the SAMMIO ALPHA prototype designed to fit around a Triumph Spitfire.
Here's the same car but with wire wheels.

https://i.imgur.com/Pxnt6GGh.jpg

Here the body mould only this one is fitted to a Scimitar SS1 chassis

https://i.imgur.com/ovIV5S0h.jpg

SAMMIO ALPHA bodies are available but now there's the option of doors.

Number 34, the car in the photos, was recently exported to a French Classic car dealer. :icon_sad:

micky1mo 9th March 2018 16:06

Back to the "D" type and here's the left hand side of the dash.

https://i.imgur.com/Duk3WY1h.jpg

Not as clamorous as the other side but it's functional. :thumb:

Paul L 10th March 2018 08:47

Mike - This 'Jag' in a 'Jag' build will be pretty special when finished. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)

micky1mo 13th March 2018 17:41

The fuel tank fits nicely on the original boot floor leaving plenty of room behind the seats for luggage.

https://i.imgur.com/cdlwj5lh.jpg

The gear stick had to be extended rearward.

https://i.imgur.com/NkwhUydh.jpg

It now fits just left of the hand brake.

https://i.imgur.com/o5Hbcboh.jpg

With all the operating gear in place we did the "brum brum" test, just to see if every thing fits! :becky:

https://i.imgur.com/zG3OJXVh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rV9jxZ4h.jpg

That bonnet sure looks big!!!!:faint:

Mister Towed 14th March 2018 06:19

So far so good!

micky1mo 21st March 2018 16:28

Been busy doing the wiring. :mmph:

https://i.imgur.com/KaLgtkOh.jpg

Also set and painted the floor.

https://i.imgur.com/HSENoeCh.jpg

As the pedal box is now in place I'll start the copper clutch and brake lines next.:icon_smile:

micky1mo 6th May 2018 12:14

Finally completed the fitting of the driver side bulkhead including the pedals, servo and clutch cylinders.

https://i.imgur.com/XEvq4hlh.jpg

Also fitted a radiator which will need a header tank.

https://i.imgur.com/6r79P24h.jpg

micky1mo 8th October 2018 16:45

Finally got to spend some time on the Jag project.

Made Mk1 manifold set-up.
It consists of a pair of Yamaha XS750 triple carbs, bridged together to make one bank of carbs which will be operated by twin throttle cables.:nerd:

https://i.imgur.com/fLewaIjl.jpg

I'm calling it Mk1 as I'm not sure if the carbs will clear the bonnet and I can't check as the car is buried in the back of the workshop until the weekend.:doh:

molleur 8th October 2018 17:55

Very interesting. Should sound great too.

micky1mo 1st January 2019 14:49

Finally got around to trial fitting the first set of carbs.

https://i.imgur.com/Fbk6pkJh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/o5wveHfh.jpg

They look good and do clear the bonnet but I have just realized these Yamaha XS750 carbs have a manual choke which will be a real pain to convert to a cable operated affair so maybe a re-think is needed. :frusty:

micky1mo 13th January 2019 11:33

Had a re-think on the bike carb set-up and think these will be better.

https://i.imgur.com/Ya3ZSQ9h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LBr7Idjh.jpg

There Mikuni 38mm replacemnt jets are easy to get, they use a single throttle cable, single choke cable and have a TPS in case I need to fit a mega-jolt system.

They are also half the weight of the Yamaha carbs. :smile:

micky1mo 15th January 2019 15:44

Finally got time to see how the new carb set-up fits on the engine.

https://i.imgur.com/P5IjlZOh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/i6nDXBJh.jpg

They seem to fit much nicer and look much better than the Yamaha carbs.
The air filter choice will be critical to the final appearance.
Overall I'm very pleased with the up-grade. :bounce:

molleur 15th January 2019 16:19

Nice!

Should sound awesome too.

redratbike 16th January 2019 06:10

You could go seperate sock filters then with a metal shroud/cold air scoop covering those to keep it in keeping with the car?

redratbike 16th January 2019 06:19

This sort of thing ?

https://forums.hybridz.org/uploads/m...1405040722.jpg

Picture taken from this thread

https://forums.hybridz.org/topic/118...mikuni-whorns/

micky1mo 16th January 2019 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by redratbike (Post 98619)

I like that idea as it will also keep the intakes in clean / dry air. :biggrin:

redratbike 16th January 2019 17:45

Possibly mr towed did the same in his Sammio?

Mister Towed 16th January 2019 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by redratbike (Post 98630)
Possibly mr towed did the same in his Sammio?

Yes, pretty much. I needed the airbox to accommodate the methanol injection system -

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/...ps86f8214a.jpg

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/...ps138bdcdd.jpg

I ran it like that for about three years before switching to bigger carbs, removing the methanol injection and running it with mesh trumpets -

https://i1186.photobucket.com/albums...pslqc5sxpg.jpg

micky1mo 16th January 2019 19:07

Looks cool.
Have you still got the methanol system and did it work? :ear:

Also do you still want a Cordite/Spitfire fiberglass bulkhead?

https://i.imgur.com/pSyAfoZh.jpg


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