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Old 5th June 2007, 00:09
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Aaargh, this is driving me nuts now. Following John's invaluable tip, I stripped down my idle valve as my engine was showing those symptoms. Sure enough, it was seized, though fairly clean, and I easily freed it up - now moves very smoothly. However, the idle is still haywire. With the air cleaner off I can monitor the bypass valve position, and after a few seconds/minutes running (this varies - sometimes doesn't go wrong until I blip the throttle) it persists in opening up the valve considerably - which promptly sends the revs up and the engine back into its fuel cut / cyclic idle. If i take the actuator off and manually close the IACV to give a steady idle, I can then idle it up or down happily from K-Pro and all seems well. As soon as I connect it up again, revs go all over the place. The actuator is obviously working one way or another so I don't think the valve is faulty, but I'm a bit at a loss.

John - did you have to do any set-up after cleaning the valve to allow the ECU to re-learn? Anyone else experience this?

Richard

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Originally Posted by alackofspeed View Post
Just thought I'd share a bit of handy info for anyone fitting a K20A2 that has been standing for a while.

The idle control valve on the k20, is notorious for seizing, and mine did exactly that during the time the engine had been sat unused.

If you find when you first start your car the engine is revving above 2k, the chances are your valve is also stuck. If your revs are running this high, it'll confuse the ECU and it'll think the car is an over-run scenario. This will mean the fuel will be cut until the revs drop to ~1500rpm, then the fuel will turn back on raising the revs to the previous level - it'll be a cyclic process.

The idle control vale is on the underside of the throttle body, and if you want to clean it you'll need to first remove the throttle body, then the idle valve.

Once removed, you'll note the idle vale unit consists of two parts, one plastic, the other aluminium. Seperate these, and you'll see the spindle that controls the airflow though the unit. To un seize the spindle turn it manually with carb cleaner or similar in the bypass pathway. I did this to partially free mine, then got the drill out and spun the spindle up with a load of oil in the bypass area.

This did the trick for me, and now my car seems to idle fine. It'll be interesting to see if that's still the case the next time I try to run the engine.

As an aside, and for anyone interested, the standard marlin silencer is pretty quiet on idle, with a reasonable rasp when the engine is revved. Not the best vid' as time was getting on when I took it.

www.johndry.com/sorted_idle.wmv
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