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Old 8th April 2019, 21:44
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anything that’s historic VED can have black & silver plates.
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Old 8th April 2019, 22:17
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The TR is registered as a 2007 on the V5. The donor car in the beginning being 1973 and that reg being used on the subsequent "7" that was built and put through SVA.
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Old 9th April 2019, 04:28
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Lucky – Great to see a photo of your car on the road, it really looks the business.

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… loads of interest in the car. Spent hours talking to people and answering questions.

They parked me between an early Bugatti and the oldest, still on the road, 1910 Morgan, amazing !
As part of the justification for your selling price, just remember it is this kind of reaction that you are selling.

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Well worth paying for a dateless (not Irish) plate, I'm sure it will increase the sale price.
That may depend on what any potential new owner already has to play with.
( As Lucky is aiming, justifiably, higher up the car buying food chain than most. )

E.g. A guy down my street bought a second hand Aston Martin Rapide.

He then sold his old Range Rover and transferred the personal plate he had on that over to the Aston.

Having said that, I obviously thought it was worth paying for a 1965 C plate for my own car.

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I'm not familiar with changing reg numbers, I've never done it because to me it isn't that important. Could it be swopped with an old plate of the old black and white style ?
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The TR is registered as a 2007 on the V5. The donor car in the beginning being 1973 and that reg being used on the subsequent "7" that was built and put through SVA.
You might need some expert advice on this, as it would depend on how the SVA registration date is treated.

Is your car in the historic tax class based on the 1973 donor/registration number?

Or is it considered to be a 2007 car and not eligible for ‘free car tax’?

If it is a 2007 car, you could still put an ageless registration number on it, but not (legally) use black and white plates.

However, if it is considered to be a 1973 car for tax, you can have both the ageless reg and black and white plates.

E.g. My car had a 1980 donor and I have a 1965 C reg with old fashioned black plastic letters on a yellow plate at the rear.

Unfortunately, I have to wait until 2021 before I can (legally) use the traditional black and white plate at the back.

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Hope that helps (a bit), Paul.

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Old 9th April 2019, 09:17
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anything that’s historic VED can have black & silver plates.
Is this a new regulation, prior to today I thought there were specific years of manufacture for which a particular pate design was required?
Since the Historic Classification is rolling doesn’t that mean that a car manufactured in 1980 must currently have yellow and black plates but next year can have black and silver plates when it becomes eligible for Historic Tax?

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The TR is registered as a 2007 on the V5. The donor car in the beginning being 1973 and that reg being used on the subsequent "7" that was built and put through SVA.
I’ve had a look at the DVLA database info for your car and I think there is something amiss.

Both the date of registration and the date of manufacture are given as 2007 which would indicate that the car after SVA was considered as being “New” (ie built from new parts except for one major part reconditioned as new) and it should have been given a brand new registration for 2007 i.e. an 07 or 57 plate.

As it was SVA’d then it is considered as a different car from the donor car and the original registration from the donor car should not have been used. (if you retain the original chassis / monocoque body then you are just making a body panel change and the car does not need SVA. Not the case with a Lotus 7 replica)

It could have had a date related plate for 1973 if the Lotus 7 replica had sufficient components from the donor car (I think there was a points system in place in 2007) but then the date of manufacture on the DVLA database should say 1973.

Having a 1973 date of manufacture would be advantageous in my view as it could then have Historic status meaning no Tax or MOT and totally legal black and silver plates.

P.S. I also noticed that the DVLA info says the car is RED and has a 1548cc engine, you might want to get those changed.

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Old 9th April 2019, 10:55
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NeilF355 – Sorry this is a quick reply as I’m supposed to be going to B&Q!

I believe historic is a rolling 40 years at the start of the year (i.e. 1st of January).

E.g. My April 1980 car will not become historic until 1st Jan. 2021.

Also, as far as I know, you could keep the donor registration post SVA/IVA provided you used two major components.

So even if the V5C says registered in 2007, it would be OK to use the original 1973 M plate.

However, if the DVLA records say it is a ‘new’ car ‘born’ is 2007 it can not claim to be historic until 2048!

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