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23rd July 2009, 07:56
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They are using astandard audi ecu with a software remap.
I'm not persistently chasing power (at this stage) as i know it will be easy to do later. I am getting the engine now, as i need to make/move engine mounts before the chassis goes for blasting. (it was a bit of a rusty mess!)
What additional triangulation etc to you suggest and where?
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27th July 2009, 10:44
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Breaking News......
Hi all
I found myself a Donor car and took it Mark@Marlin on Saturday.
I've been reading some of the other threads and my donor car may suprise you !!!
Seat Leon Cupra (180bhp) with a six speed gearbox.
Mark is going to start dismantling the Donor and having a look, changing the engine mounts, to accept the Leon engine and possibly the 6 speed box.
Mine is going to be the first time he has fitted a Leon engine and gearbox to his chassis. So fingers crossed for him. This *IS* work in progress. and no-one knows what the outcome will be.
However if it all works out it seems I may have the first Factory approved Seat Leon based 5EXi.
Audi A3s for donors are a bit Rare, and those that are available are expensive. It seems alot of A3 donors are being shipped to Polan for recycling, hence not available in the price range, or age range we are after.
Regards
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27th July 2009, 11:06
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Good luck Steve.
That's how mine start off life, a standard Seat 180 engine. Looks like you are using the same engine as me.
Will be interested to know if they get the 6 speeder to work. I could not get it fitted and lined up in my chassis.
Also what you ned to do about driveshafts, cable control, clutch etc.
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27th July 2009, 11:14
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My engine is coded APP. Which seat did for 2 years before moving to the next version. I belive the main difference is a K03s turbo instead of a K03 which is on mine.
Given the mileage on the car 63K miles, I got a bargin.
Once it is all in I can consider a BAM engine as an upgrade later.
Not sure yet. Clutch should be ok.
As I said Mark is investigating everything.
That includes the 6 speed box, drive shafts etc.
I do know that Marlin now supply there own Pedal boxes, and from the looks of things on the race car these are all hydraulic.
If anyone can do it, Im sure Mark can.
If he can't then we will address that problem when it arrives.
It may mean buying new drive shafts and other ancilliaries as and when required.
If the 6 speeder goes in, then it will mean motorway cruising is more economic on fuel.
It is also worth noting that this years Chassis is different.
I know im getting what Marlin call the Race chassis,
one thing I noticed is there is no rear sub frame at the back. The engine is held in a fully welded cradle. As well as a few other things that have evlovled.
My chassis is not quite complete, there is some welding to do, additonal bracing, and powder coating, Which this year is as Dark Grey instead of white.
With regards to the 6 speeder it may need a change in the chassis. Which given the progress on building my chassis, seems like a good time for Mark to have a look and if he can make the necssary changes?
Steve
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27th July 2009, 11:34
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HI Nutter.
What price did you get your engine for?
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27th July 2009, 11:43
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Quote:
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My engine is coded APP. Which seat did for 2 years before moving to the next version. I belive the main difference is a K03s turbo instead of a K03 which is on mine.
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Hi Steve.
Yes, looks like that is the only difference between yours and mine (APP V AUQ)
I ended up not using the K03s as I had a reconned T28 from a Pulsar just begging to be used. Good for 350 with the Rover and Nissan engines.
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27th July 2009, 11:47
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HI Nutter.
What price did you get your engine for?
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Complete driveable car Seat Leon X-Reg 63Kmiles
for £2199
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27th July 2009, 11:48
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Hi Steve.
I ended up not using the K03s as I had a reconned T28 from a Pulsar just begging to be used. Good for 350 with the Rover and Nissan engines.
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What did you do with your KO3s turbo?
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27th July 2009, 11:56
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I got the front end as in the pictures for £900. Came from a 2004 car.
I eneded up selling the Seat turbo to a SEAT owner with a dodgy turbo.
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27th July 2009, 12:06
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Thats a good deal !! What mileage had it done?
I was looking for something complete, so i could drive it directly to Marlin, without incurring transport charges etc etc.
I'm hoping to have some return on my money if i sell the rest of the car, it does have a full leather interior.
If i dont sell it I will mount the driver seat on a board, attach a battery, and have a homemade electric leather reclining chair
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27th July 2009, 12:19
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Going by memory, mine was very low mileage. Something like 34 or 38k. 30 something anyway.
See how long it will last once on the road!
ECU wise. Will make it a lot cheaper if you don't have to go standalone ECU. And drive by wire throttle. Not sure how that works.
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27th July 2009, 13:38
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dont know what you mean by standalone ECU
I will be using the ECU from my donor, with immobolizer circuit disabled and a rechip
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27th July 2009, 13:48
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I was not aware the donor ECU could have the immobiliser removed etc when I was doing mine.
So decided to go standalone ECU.
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27th July 2009, 18:33
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Originally Posted by limpabit
I was not aware the donor ECU could have the immobiliser removed etc when I was doing mine.
So decided to go standalone ECU.
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What standalone system did you decide on?
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27th July 2009, 18:37
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I got the front end as in the pictures for £900. Came from a 2004 car.
I eneded up selling the Seat turbo to a SEAT owner with a dodgy turbo.
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Mine had come from a 2001 seat leon cupra with 64k miles.
Came with Engine, box, ecu, loom, alternator, starter & shafts for £675 only about 40 miles away from home!
Any ideas on engine codes?
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27th July 2009, 18:40
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According to a 1.8t specialist website, it should be the following:
AUQ/ARY engine code as fitted to - Audi A3 - Audi TT - Seat Leon Cupra - Skoda Octavia RS - VW Bora 1.8T - VW Golf GTi
Year 00-05
standard power 180
chipped power 230
Transverse
9.5:1
K03s turbo?
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27th July 2009, 18:41
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AUQ at a guess (it's on the head, near the lifting eye by the cam cover).
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Originally Posted by 5exiAdam
According to a 1.8t specialist website
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qpeng?
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27th July 2009, 19:19
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As John said above. Near cam cover on the inlet side. should be AUQ I would guess.
I ended up going for the QPENG ECU. Wired it on my own. Engine loom - Rover relays and fuse box. And original Marlin loom.
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27th July 2009, 20:02
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I should be picking up the lump early this week.
The deal seemed too good to let go!
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28th July 2009, 06:29
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Yeah you got a good deal there. Don't forget to start a build thread or something.
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