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Marlin Sportster, Cabrio, Berlinetta and Roadster builds Enthused or Confused about your vintage Marlin build? Ask away here or show off your build.

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Old 4th March 2010, 07:25
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Ok - last question before I really do say enough is enough - how much bolt did you leave protruding on the seat mounts?

I used fairly long bolts to allow easier alignment when I dropped the seats in, and with a big load spreading washer and nylock on them there still about an inch of thread showing. Should I leave them be, or should I dremel them off a couple of turns above the top of the nylock?

And really the last question - the mesh I have in my centre console - radius issue or not? I know Robin had his doubts. I don't think just covering up the vents would be a good idea, as don't I have to prove that it works if it's fitted? An unvented heater could be deemed to be 'not working'...

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Don't forget your tow rope, jack, spare water, petrol can, zipties, a thermos full of coffee and your hat and gloves...

Good luck tomorrow
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My seat bolts had about 25mm showing and a big penny washer, no comment by my tester.

Are you going to have a spare wheel fitted? I heard of one that failed the radius test because the tread pattern was too sharp! I took mine off at the centre and added to the huge pile of tools I took with me.

Anyway good luck, and wrap up warm.
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No, no spare fitted yet, so they shouldn't get me on that.

My support vehical looks as if it may have most of my garage in there at the moment - Big box of spare bolts, nylocks, washers, sundry bits of titan fast and rubber edging, cable ties, nut covers...

And I'm taking the whole top box off my tool cart, along with my socket set and a whole load of electrical tools. Wondering if I need to take my cordless drill....

Good job it's my Mates' Discovery!
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I took a (Marlin) boot full of stuff as well. I didn't have the luxury of a support vehicle!

I didn't use any of it in the end as the first thing they failed me on (contactable edge on ECU) wasn't possible to do a quick fix for. After that it was better to wait until I got home and make the changes at my leisure.

Anyway - with all the effort you have put in and all the experience of guys that have done it before you I reckon you stand a better chance than most of a pass first time!

I did use the tools however as one of the wings got very loose on the way back - but you shouldn't have that problem as you have the "re-designed" wing mount :-)

The test process is very interesting if you can remain detached. The scariest bit is when they stick it on the rolling road and run it up to 2/3 max revs for 5 minutes. That's when you find out if the cooling works OK!

It's also a bit scary when the tester goes tearing off to the little test track to do the final "drive it" test. This only happens right at the end when they are fairly happy themselves that nothing is going to fall off....


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Thanks - My nerves are starting to get the better of me now though...

As for the rolling road bit - do they do the brake testing on that? Only when I took it for the MOT, the inspector there asked me what sort of diff I had, and when I said it was an LSD, he said 'good job I didn't put it on the rollers then' and checked the brakes with a weighted gadget he put on the passenger side floor during a quick drive up and down the test centre service road.
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mine's got an lsd and it went on the rollers.

When mine was tested, the 1st set of rollers is to check the speedo so they wind it up to 70odd (without strapping it down!), they did all the ramp inspections then tested the brakes on the next set of rollers
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Good luck GOO!

Having followed and enjoyed your excellent build diary, I thought I had better sign up and send a message. I have had an E30 Sportster kit progressing slowly in the garage for longer than I care to admit to! Hopefully, admitting my existence on this site will inspire me to get on and finish.
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Thanks - and welcome on board! Peter will be along in a moment to take your details and add you to the list of sportster builders...
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Good luck GOO!

Having followed and enjoyed your excellent build diary, I thought I had better sign up and send a message. I have had an E30 Sportster kit progressing slowly in the garage for longer than I care to admit to! Hopefully, admitting my existence on this site will inspire me to get on and finish.
Hi Sorton,
welcome the band of merry Marlin builders on Madaboutkitcars!
We've all taken longer than we like to admit so don't feel bad about that.

I haven't updated the list for ages so i'll dig it out and give it a refresh.

Tell us more about your build, what stage are you at, what was the donor car, and any other info you want to share?


...peter

Oh, and GOOD LUCK GOO!!!!!!!

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GOOOOOOOD luck Goo!
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Good luck Jason....
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Good luck GOO!

Having followed and enjoyed your excellent build diary, I thought I had better sign up and send a message. I have had an E30 Sportster kit progressing slowly in the garage for longer than I care to admit to! Hopefully, admitting my existence on this site will inspire me to get on and finish.
Hi Sorton
Welcome to Madabout.
You have cheered me up, as as I appeared to be the only one left on Madabout still building a Marlin with BMW components (E36 M50 Cabrio), now that GOO has submitted his for IVA.
Now that you have come out of the closset, how about giving us an up date on where you are up to.
If you are interested I have logged my (slow) build on :
www.flickr.com/photos/mikes_bmw_marlin_cabrio.
We would all love to see how you have gone about solving all your build issues, and stamping your mark on it.
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Can I get a Woo, and a Hoo?

HELL YES!





And for my next trick, I shall make several pints of beer disappear before your very eyes!

Thanks to all the advice and help you chaps have given me - I couldn't have done it without you.
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GOO
What a result!!- Well done Jason.
Does that mean you can now legally drive it on the public highways?
Have fun!!
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Not quite - still needs the DVLA inspection for registration. Then I get issued a reg number and I can get plates & Tax. Then it's all systems go.
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Well done, that's brilliant news!!

Tell us moe about your day, it must have been bloddy freezing this morning but driving the Sportster without windscreen as the sun came up must have been pretty cool! (ugh, sorry)

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Yes - it was a bit cold...

We left Northampton at about 6:30, and went down the A508 / A5 route to LB. It was fine on the slow bits, but as soon as you got on the open road and up to national limit, it was bloody RAW. I had my thermals on, two t shirts and a rugby shirt, a scarf and a ski jacket it was still bitter. My trick with two pairs of gloves (fleecy type under my leather gloves) didn't work, as I couldn't feel my fingers when we got there!

There was one moment on the way there that will stick with me for a long time - belting down the A5, I had a blood red sun rising on my left, with the full moon still fully visible on my right. It was almost like something out of Star Wars. Not that I was going to the biggest hive of scum and villainy in the know universe. Just LB.

We got there with plenty of time to spare - arrived about 07:15, and had to wait on the entrance way for one of the VOSA bods to arrive and open the gates.

The actual test was very interesting, and the chap doing it was very amenable - after about 5 mins the banter was flowing and everybody was laughing, despite the cold.

The car sailed through the emissions check, .5% C02 and about 400ppm HC.

The external projections check threw up some items - he wasn't happy with the rear of the headlight bracket - but everything else was fine. He also hemmed and hawwed about the slots around the nose cone - apparently they need a 1mm radius edge if they're 25mm wide. The only other thing he pinged me for was the rear reflectors - they didn't have a 2.5mm radius

Inside, there was nothing to really note, apart from he didn't pass the gear knob. Everything else was fine (boy was I glad I made up the panel to cover the electrics - he shine his torch in there and just shrugged and said "well, there's nothing there to check..."). No probs with the console, either. When he was checking, he mentioned that anything above a line he chalked on the tunnel had to be checked with the larger 160mm sphere, for head strike - so whilst the 100mm may have been able to get in to touch the console, as it was above the line he used the other one, and he couldn't even get it past the gearstick and the lower line of the dash.

There was a bit of a moment with the seatbelt bar - when I had positioned it, I had triple checked the height, and added a few mil to be sure. Lucky I did, because with the tolerance it was spot on. The inspector lucked at me and said "Where's your spare couple of mil then" And then winked at me. I can only assume the rubber matting and the carpet on the seat bars took it up.

Checking the lights, he did discover a fairly major boob on my part - you could turn the rear fog on when you only had the side lights on. And the only other item of note was that the self centring wasn't really working right, even with pumped up tires.

So - it got to mid-day, and he said we'd break for lunch, and if I could rectify the issues he'd found in the afternoon, he'd pass me.

Popped in LB town to the little Halfords there and got a replacement gear knob and some emery paper, and some lunch

Returned and as soon as he came back, we rectified all the issues - sanded a radius onto the rear reflectors, radiused the edges of the front slots, changed the gear knob. He seemed mighty impressed that I could take the dash off by disconnecting a couple of plugs. 5 mins later, after a switcheroony of some of the terminals in one of my connectors, and the fog was fixed. "Good god - it's even neat and tidy under there" said the Inspector.

The back edge of the light brackets was sorted with some rubber edging I had left over from the bonnet - we just slackened of the light and clamped it bak down trapping the rubber - The Inspector then helped us re-align the lights afterwards.

The self centring was cured by giving her more toe out - We popped her back on the lift and used the wheel skates to allow the wheel to freely move when we wound the track rods out. It did mean cutting of the shrouds I'd heat shrunk on - I did have spare ones. I asked him if he wanted me to put them on now (which would have meant winding the rod all the way out and slipping it on before screwing it back in), or if he trusted me to do when I got home. All I got was another grin in reply.

He took it for a spin, declared it was feeling a lot better an centering as required, and told me to wait whilst he did the paperwork.

That's when it hit me that I'd actually done it! YAY!!!!

Got the paperwork, (IAC, copy of IAC, and all the print outs and calcs from the test) and was on the road again at 3:30ish. Coming through MK, I opened the taps to celebrate - she felt great. I only slowed down as it felt like the helmet I was wearing was about to tear my head off.

All the way there, and all the way back temps where fine - stayed at about 80ish - fan was cutting in and out as it should - so I don't think I'll have too many issues with cooling - but the real test will be this summer when it's a bit warmer.

She's tucked up in the garage, having a snooze at the moment. I think I'll leave her be for the rest of the weekend.

Still can't quite believe I've done it!
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Interesting to see a Sportster weighs 891Kg. I've often wondered.

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Yes - I was shocked at that.

I have the exact figures for each axle at home, as I expected it to be more after the advice you lot gave me on what to put as the axle weights.

Those figures we conjured up (550 front, 700 rear) have been put on the form as the design limit.
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