Worcester MIGLIA - Page 3

Carib Classics · #1 7th May 2015, 16:04

So the chassis build started at the rear end and worked my way forward. A couple of hick ups as the pics will show. Spot the back to front stuff all you keen builders.
Its all been changed now.

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Paul L · #2 7th May 2015, 18:12

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Originally Posted by Carib Classics

... I would love to see a chopped body on a chassis, but my gut is telling me, extend my chassis...

I'm sure you already know this, but it is worth double checking...

If you start welding structural extensions on to the chassis you can't use the re-body rules and will need IVA.

You are allowed to bolt extensions to the chassis, or build the extensions into the body shell itself and then bolt that to the chassis.

Good luck, Paul.

PS
Your rolling chassis is coming together nicely.

1iTim · #3 7th May 2015, 17:17

Do the front foot wells need to be that deep?

I don't think I published them, but I ran my calcs with a safety factor based on the force that would be experienced on a 100 kg passenger in the seat (given the geometry of the herald seat runners) and the force to compress the front springs all the way, in static fast load like a big bump. Given that al is less stiff than steel real world in extreme (crash) will be different due to bending etc. I'll go for 2mm in the strongest alloy practical. The original floor was about 1mm steel and ribbed for a stiffer shape. I'll be using a lighter grade sheet for the rest of the cockpit though. My heat shield is .5mm and that's really prone to bend, crease and dent, so I won't go that thin on the inside.

Anyway, just some thoughts while I can't sleep at 3am!
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1iTim · #4 7th May 2015, 17:22

That's a really satisfying part of the build, I remember that! Very nice putting all the clean parts back together.
Looks great Carib!

1iTim · #5 7th May 2015, 17:41

PS re the floor I also checked the raw stats of how thick the alloy had to be to match the strength of the steel and got a similar thickness. Depends on the alloy of al, varies hugely. 2mm al is still lighter than 1mm steel
G'night all

Marc F · #6 8th May 2015, 12:21

Agreed Paul, but the Type 49 Corsa guys do that, and do not appear to have issues. Whether they declare the mod I don't know but... Just saying.

Personally, I would run a Herald chassis with the full length body. CC - you could sell your chassis and swap to a Herald, and have a far simpler life. All your goodies will bolt directly on, so no real loss.

YMMV

Ally panelling - I will probably still go for thinner, and maybe look at adding ribs for strength. But my heart tells me the floor pan just needs to keep my feet off the ground - doubt it adds much in crash situations. And I plan on a centre tunnel with full structural panelling, along with the side chassis and frame rails. So should be plenty strong enough for me. Advantage of 1.2mm or thinner is ease of bending/forming. 2mm is going to increase the difficulty, and hence the chance of me getting it wrong.

BUT! Interesting that Mike has resurfaced and is making you a body - maybe he will be able to give me a receipt now (and my grill and side vents and headrest...). Will be good if he is actually back and active with the Miglia... IF anyone manages to catch him please do ask that on to this forum via one of the many threads please. He just seems to "not receive" my messages or answer my calls. Shame, as he seem(ed) a nice guy to work with.
But interesting to hear the other views - keep 'em coming.

Carib Classics · #7 17th May 2015, 15:44

Thought I would bring my build pics up to date as I await my subframe from Mike.
I am eager to cut and extend my spitfire chassis but the guys at the garage are stopping me until Mike sends the subframe which will be used to position all the outriggers exactly where they need to be.
Also they want to ensure the total length matches the body which has been designed to fit on the frame.
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Carib Classics · #8 17th May 2015, 15:54

The build continues
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Carib Classics · #9 17th May 2015, 16:05

Getting bored waiting on Mike and subframe but thats just me being impatient. its only been a few weeks since the kit was ordered, but in my mind I want to have the body on and in place before winter so I can spend this winter on the interior and external trims.
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Carib Classics · #10 17th May 2015, 16:16

Got a great deal on the Hubs and spinners but have found them to be the short type.
The add did not say for 13" wheels only. I have 15" which need the longer hubs. Not to worry that all part of doing your own build, making mistakes and making them good. So they will be back on ebay soon and replacements ordered.

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Mister Towed · #11 17th May 2015, 17:02

Chassis looks nice and fresh. The short splined hubs are a lot cheaper than the long ones but like you say, will only take the 13" wires. It's a common mistake which has also been made by the seller of the Miglia that's ending this evening on ebay.

Hope you get your frame in good time, that's an exciting part of the build when you have a working 'moon rover'.

1iTim · #12 24th May 2015, 11:15

Mate your engine makes mine want to scurry back to the museum where it belongs

Tim

Carib Classics · #13 10th December 2021, 22:29

So after a long absence, when other projects were completed, my tools being stolen again, then there was Covid 19 lock down, I am back with my build.
This time I have replaced my Spitfire Chassis with a Vitesse Chassis which had been dry stored for thirty years. In great condition as my picture will show.
I had to exchange all my previously renovated parts in order to get this great chassis so the strip down, clean and replace worn out areas has begun.

Mister Towed · #14 11th December 2021, 08:03

Welcome back, Carib - it's only been six years!

The longer chassis is a good move, it will really improve the proportions of the finished car. Can't wait to see some more progress

deni · #15 11th December 2021, 09:39

Hi Carib,
Great to read that you’re resuming your build. It would be great to have another Miglia thread on the forum. I agree with MrT, the longer chassis will improve the look of the car.
Looking forward to following the progress of your build.

Cheers, D.

Carib Classics · #16 26th February 2022, 21:20

So what do I have? Here goes, pics as I have them. Will try and put them in some sort of order

Carib Classics · #17 26th February 2022, 21:32

Been trying to keep the build moving while I have some time. Its nearly Easter and the covers need to come off my other motor for the MOTs. So some more pics

Carib Classics · #18 26th February 2022, 21:48

Easter is soon and other cars will demand time so big push next few weeks

Carib Classics · #19 9th July 2022, 00:26

Where is the year going. Didn't seem that long that I re started my build but its been 3 very quick moths.
So an update:
New thoughts on the engine and have obtained a MX5 Donor. Yes change in direction but should have as much power going to the wheels.
Stripped most of the Donor, including some of the trans tunnel.
All wiring loom with ECU, and of course the gearbox.
Hope the rear end can keep up or there may be another rethink.

Carib Classics · #20 9th July 2022, 01:12

My colours of Choice starts to GLOW