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Old 6th September 2016, 10:34
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Default 1960s Era Tribute one off

As suggested I this is a thread about a restoration recreation of a mid engine one-off that I have been doing for far to long.
effectively the restoration started afresh.

I do have a question how come I can only see links to the pictures?
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Old 6th September 2016, 11:34
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Right click on the picture to get "Image Location" which looks like this : http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...1&d=1473158035

Then put [img ] in fromt of it but without the space and [/img ] after it, again without the space

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Old 6th September 2016, 20:10
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Thank for the tip on the images. I will give it ago.
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Old 7th September 2016, 02:34
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and more in 2009-10 Progress is slow when working full time limited weekends.
The windscreen surround was made off the actual screen and the rear deck is also molded of the screen!
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Old 7th September 2016, 08:17
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Love shot 19, looking at the back of the engine.
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Old 7th September 2016, 10:14
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Can you give me some Information about the Alfa engine and which gearbox is attached?
Is there an adaptor plate used?

Thanks, Axel
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Old 7th September 2016, 10:58
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Can you give me some Information about the Alfa engine and which gearbox is attached?
Is there an adaptor plate used?

Thanks, Axel
Hi Axel
Engine is an early Alfa Montreal the gearbox was changed to a Renault UN1 (Renault 21 Turbo/Esprit)
Iwas determined to keep the whole assembly short. The Flywheel was modified from the full Bowl type to a segmented type and used a Mitsubishi EVO pressure plate, A Renault Clutch plate and a a Toyota Corolla Thrust bearing which fits the Renault release fork
I used the original UN1 bellhousing and an 10mm adapter it was cleaver piece of engineering we picked up the ALFA block original mounts on a CNC mill and using a broaching tool just drilled through the bellhousing at the necessary places.
The surprise was at each point there was substantial material.
What we then did was put 10 5mm countersunk bolts from the adapter back into the bell housing.
The attach plate (adapter) is probably a good name as it was then welded and milled true and flat. It also caries the Slave cylinder with spacer and Ford V8 Hi torque with and another adapter.
Needless to say there quite a lot of engineering time and thought went into the packaging.
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Old 7th September 2016, 11:58
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Woow!! Thanks!!!

so you have got an extremely cool engine/tranny Combo!
I am in deep respect of your Engineering capabilities!

Axel

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Hi Axel
Engine is an early Alfa Montreal the gearbox was changed to a Renault UN1 (Renault 21 Turbo/Esprit)
Iwas determined to keep the whole assembly short. The Flywheel was modified from the full Bowl type to a segmented type and used a Mitsubishi EVO pressure plate, A Renault Clutch plate and a a Toyota Corolla Thrust bearing which fits the Renault release fork
I used the original UN1 bellhousing and an 10mm adapter it was cleaver piece of engineering we picked up the ALFA block original mounts on a CNC mill and using a broaching tool just drilled through the bellhousing at the necessary places.
The surprise was at each point there was substantial material.
What we then did was put 10 5mm countersunk bolts from the adapter back into the bell housing.
The attach plate (adapter) is probably a good name as it was then welded and milled true and flat. It also caries the Slave cylinder with spacer and Ford V8 Hi torque with and another adapter.
Needless to say there quite a lot of engineering time and thought went into the packaging.
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Old 7th September 2016, 21:42
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Woow!! Thanks!!!

so you have got an extremely cool engine/tranny Combo!
I am in deep respect of your Engineering capabilities!

Axel
Thank you for the compliment, When I write about the parts I had forgotten just how much work has gone into the project, so thanks for the question.

The doors as simple as they are took an amazing amount of time to engineer.
They are bespoke for the car and getting the opening shape so they would open and not catch and not open on to the bodywork was a bit of a feat and its one I am quite proud of. and friends who see the car that's one thing they comment on. and I have engineered gas struts to hold them open.

You can also open the front with the doors open.
Both front and rear body sections come off with two bolts and electrical connections.
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Old 11th September 2016, 06:36
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Wow, respect for the engineering doesn't even begin to convey it! Excuse my ignorance but are we looking at a car inspired by the Alfa 33 Stradale? Is it for road or track or both?
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Old 11th September 2016, 07:17
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...Excuse my ignorance but are we looking at a car inspired by the Alfa 33 Stradale?...
If it helps, I've transferred some of au-yt/Graeme's previous posts here...

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Something for the forum to discuss, a tirbute to the mid late 60s 2ltr race cars.
I call it a restoration recreation tribute to all things from that era a Mid-engine Berlinetta Tourer






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The car was a one off, chassis is a full space frame, engine is an early Alfa Montreal V8, gearbox is Renault UN1 with most of the body missing. But it had registration history. So ineffect I started again.
It was never intended to be a replica of any thing I would be interested in what your thoughts are as to what it looks like.
I am considering reducing the height of the spoiler.
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These cars were all inspiration with the 33 Stradale a big influence but instead of doing a Replica I wanted a bespoke design.


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I am enjoying the build and coming up with solutions but getting the styling correct as per was very important
I have stuck to the late 60s theme
The doors are 906 style with Lotus thinking that is a single beam with hinge at one end lock at the other.
The Steering rack is very early 912 Porsche. this was extended to get the geometry correct - 0 bump steer to toe out on the last part of travel.
The rear hubs are also specially remade the originals badly corroded. only I had a pattern made to use ALFA GTV rear bearings and drive shaft's.
The front uprights are Fiat 124 and bigger Wilwood 4 spot calipers
au-yt - Hi Graeme,

The more photos you post, the more amazing this project becomes.

It took me 4 years to get my car on the road and it still isn't painted, so 11 years and counting is an epic effort!

I am sure I am not the only one who would like to hear more about the whole story from the beginning.

Did you know it was going to be such a long build right from the start?

Or did you start with one idea that developed into something else?

Good luck, Paul.
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Old 12th September 2016, 07:53
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Hi Paul
Thank you for covering the links to pictures I sill haven't worked out how to do that.

Interesting this website uses the same software as Ferrari Chat but the pictures are automatically posted as picture. It probably the cast of data storage.

The story of this car is shrouded in a bit of mystery and to be honest I plan to leave it as just that, sorry.
Its authenticity is the registration which is described as a 1966 Lotus Coupe model:- UNK (unknown). This have since found wasn't uncommon back then as I know of and so does the club a PIPER GT2 registered as a Lotus Piper!

The picture of the rear 3/4 was the first time it was on its wheels even I think it looks stunning and I own it. Great motivation to keep going.

This is the new chassis the engine and gear box need to be split to install but the good bit is the bell housing fits through the rear hoop all be it on its side.
The adjustable suspension control arm mounts. These I am quite proud off and probably should patent the idea as thay are really simple but strong

I have added a roll bar and screen hoop since then and extra removable bracing in the engine bay.

The adjustable suspension control arm mounts. These I am quite proud off and probably should patent the idea as they are really simple but strong.
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Old 15th September 2016, 09:43
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One thing I am still deciding is the wheels, they are currently 6.5" front, 9"x15 rear. I would prefer a more period wheel and preferably not a Ferrari copy, to stay true to non replica theme.
I would be interested in people's thoughts.
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Old 15th September 2016, 10:25
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Wow, respect for the engineering doesn't even begin to convey it! Excuse my ignorance but are we looking at a car inspired by the Alfa 33 Stradale? Is it for road or track or both?
My Appologies for the delay in answering.
Yes the car was originally inspired by the Alfa 33 STRADALE but other cars that have had an influence are Porsche 906, Fiat Abath 1000 Spider and Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 Periscopica to name a few, there are quite a few cars from that era that keep appearing.
Good example is the Vixen GT small and exotic
http://brusselsoldtimers.com/vixen-gt/

And another car that I really like is the Marciano 268a and this gives mone indication of the sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmbjAPoC3ec

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