IanA's Targa Florio Special Build

IanA · #1 4th April 2021, 11:46

Long ago and far away, Chris and Dan at Tribute built a 250 Kali convertible, sprayed it white, added some stickers and sold it on eBay.
It's appearance gave the impression that it had just completed the Targa Florio. That's a 450 mile road race in Sicily whose first event pre-dated the Mille Miglia.
I had always wanted to ask Chris to build another and for me to have the cash waiting. Building a 250 never directly appealed to me due to the side profile and the need to add door skins and handles. However, I liked the extended boot.
I'd watched the development of Barber's Z3gato with interest due to its use of the standard Z3 side profile and then the availability of a convertible version.
Time has moved on, retirement beckons and I find myself with a 2.0 Z3 bought just before Christmas 2020. Prices were rising even in winter and I didn't want a £600 banger, rather one with an MOT that I could refurbish piecemeal and still use.
I had it delivered, fixed a few bits and pieces and taxed it. It has a good service history but has been neglected of late until the last owner who had renewed components before moving it on.
I'd seen the 250 front that WCA had converted to fit his Z300S and approached him about selling it. I then asked Chris for a supply and fit price for a Z3gato convertible rear end. I sold my Astra TwinTop Turbo to start the funding.
Then I had an interesting tax coding from HMRC which provided the rest.
I pondered what to call the result- it not being a replica of any particular car. With a Scaglietti-inspired front and a Zagato-inspired rear; how about a ScagZag?
I've settled on Tribute Targa Florio Special. We'll see what the DVLRO make of that.

Progress so far includes resiting the oil cooler loop as close to the electric fan as possible and removing the "ears" of the cooling shroud either side of that.
Then I've replaced the bonnet mounted washer jets with ones mounted on the wiper arms. They each have four jets spraying in an X pattern.
The result is spectacular; just like Waltzing Waters (TM) but without the lights.

I've now checked the inner sills and removed the rust using Bilthamber GE-OX and zinc primer. After that, a top coat of matt black and a dousing with Waxoyl.

A trip down to WCA to swap the front and reconnect the lights has produced Phase 1.

Next step, make a booking with Chris to get the rear end replaced.

Jaguartvr · #2 4th April 2021, 12:06

I have a Z3 that didn't come with the power steering cooling loop, it had obviously rotted away and had been replaced with a small copper pipe that just linked the two rubber pipes together so deleting the cooling loop. It has never given a problem and I can't see any reason why the car would need a cooling loop on the power steering.

molleur · #3 4th April 2021, 13:56

Very interesting. More pics please as it moves along.

IanA · #4 4th April 2021, 14:41

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Originally Posted by Jaguartvr

I have a Z3 that didn't come with the power steering cooling loop, it had obviously rotted away and had been replaced with a small copper pipe that just linked the two rubber pipes together so deleting the cooling loop...

Good tip, Jag. Is the power steering on the Z3 self-bleeding? I've never had to do anything like that on other cars after re-filling with fluid.

Just seen on the Zroadster forum that turning the steering wheel lock-to-lock a few times gets rid of any air in the pipes.

redratbike · #5 4th April 2021, 16:42

ooh i like the idea of a mutant build

did you sell your 300s ??

IanA · #6 4th April 2021, 17:38

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Originally Posted by redratbike

...did you sell your 300s ??

Certainly not !!! Looking forward to getting some side-by-side pics once the TFS build has progressed further.

redratbike · #7 4th April 2021, 22:45

well done for keeping the car and building another

Lucky@LeMans · #8 4th April 2021, 23:39

An interesting concept Ian, can't wait to see the finished result. The side profile of the Z3GT convertible looks great and I'm sure it will work well with the 250 front end.

Jaguartvr · #9 5th April 2021, 10:43

Yes, the steering is self bleeding, just turn the steering wheel lock to lock a few times.

I'm surprised you got WCA to part with his bonnet.

Tigga · #10 10th April 2021, 17:03

Hi Ian.
This is the white/grey 250 with retro / racing stickers that Chris /Dan built and I bought off eBay from them.

IanA · #11 11th April 2021, 11:33

Hi Tigga- that's super to hear from you. It was definitely my first inspiration. My second is the attached from the 1962 Targa Florio.
Having fitted WCA's front with its high gloss black finish, seems a shame to respray that so mine is likely to be matt black like yours from the doors back.
Do you have any pics from when you first bought it, please?

Subsequently: found Tigga's thread on this.

IanA · #12 11th April 2021, 13:06

Quote from me 3 January 2017:

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Originally Posted by IanA

I do like the "just done the Targa Florio in it" look.
Sort the exhaust and leave the rest.
If I had the space, I'd ask Chris & Dan to do one just like it for me.

Jaguartvr · #13 11th April 2021, 14:00

Push the boat out and paint it GLOSS black, it will cost more but look so much better.

Lucky@LeMans · #14 11th April 2021, 16:53

Matt black doesn't do it for me ! I like the silver one in the photo above . Have you thought about a red oxide finish if you really want a "shabby chic" look ?

Mitchelkitman · #15 11th April 2021, 18:22

Matt paint on cars can be a problem. Lotus were selling matt red cars to Japan (or was it China?) as it's a 'lucky' colour there - any mud on the bodywork was a devil to remove and they looked just like red oxide primer anyway

IanA · #16 11th April 2021, 22:48

I'm going for the "well-used racer" look. The Targa Florio route comprised roads that were dusty and rough in places so persistent mud might be a good thing.

I'm not giving this one the budget for a professional respray and as I have no facilities, rattle-can matt black is within my capabilities and scope.

IanA · #17 26th April 2021, 17:45

Phase 1 appearance now complete. I pulled the steering oil cooler pipe back even more but there still wasn't enough clearance for the fan behind the alloy egg-crate grille as supplied by WCA. His doesn't have an electric fan but I wished to retain mine.

The black grille with painted lines (!) looks good- this is not a replica.

kon · #18 14th June 2021, 10:32

I cant quite work out what's going on here... is that a trailer board, for towing, or is that the "clunky" reverse & fog lights you referred to? Do you have any pics taken at normal standing height, and at a slight angle please, to give an idea of the depth of those lights? I'm really struggling to find a set of rear lights I like, and have looked at something similar, but wasn't sure how well they'd sit on a curved rear, so any extra pics would be really handy.
Thanks.

Lucky@LeMans · #19 14th June 2021, 17:18

I used the Lucas rear number plate light which doubles up as a reversing light. The fog light I fitted was right under the body and could only be seen from the back. I think the style of the lights doesn't need to be messed with for a "classic" look !

IanA · #20 15th June 2021, 14:53

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Originally Posted by Lucky@LeMans

I used the Lucas rear number plate light which doubles up as a reversing light. The fog light I fitted was right under the body and could only be seen from the back. I think the style of the lights doesn't need to be messed with for a "classic" look !

I did consider the combined reversing/number plate light but I also wanted better integrated lights rather than the afterthought fog light. The latest incarnation is closer to my original ideas.
Due to the curvature of the body at that point, a better solution may be to mount the lights and the number plate on the same sheet of metal or plastic.