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Old 15th October 2016, 11:44
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Hi All

Does anyone on here have some or access to dino 246 internal door openers/handles. Looking to get some plasma cut but need the sizes and if
possible to draw around them for me to get a pattern.

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Old 16th October 2016, 08:59
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Does anyone on here have some or access to dino 246 internal door openers/handles. Looking to get some plasma cut but need the sizes and if
possible to draw around them for me to get a pattern.
Hi Ian
I'd love a set of those for my Dino.
The same original handles were also used in the Daytona so you could expand your request to cover those cars as well.

I have seen one replica SR Daytona with the original handles.

Interestingly it just happens that eurospares have a second hand passenger door one in stock at the moment from a 365 GTC4 for 51

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Old 16th October 2016, 09:46
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Hi

It does look similar but it's not quite the same. The dino ones are quite a bit dearer too.
I'm looking into plasma cutting the handles and maybe getting the embellishers cast in ally.
The handles will be cut from 6mm steel plate and will require some hand finishing/shaping
and also the working bits brazed on.
The embellishers can either be polished up or chromed along the the handle.
Euro spares have them but upwards of 750!!
ian

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Old 17th October 2016, 19:53
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It does look similar but it's not quite the same. The dino ones are quite a bit dearer too.
Must admit the only difference I can see is in the position of the mounting bolt and the door pull holes.

This one also appears to have both sets of holes drilled for fitting to either the Dino or the 365.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferrari-24...-/161327287033

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Old 19th October 2016, 14:42
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I've ordered a pair and the embellishers to 300 the lot posted!!
I had enquired into having them plasma cut in either 6 or 10mm steel and then hand finishing/machining to size and shape. Quoted 30 in 6mm/35 in 10mm a pair inc postage. The embellishers would need a pattern making and I was planning on having them cast at my local foundry in phosphor bronze(easier to chrome plate) He'd quoted around 30/40 each. These would need hand finishing also and then the whole lot chromed.Best guesstimate for chrome plating 100 ish??? Total 200 ish plus all the hand finishing. I think 300 is about what they would have come out to.

ian

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Old 21st October 2016, 08:20
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I've ordered a pair and the embellishers to 300 the lot posted!!
ian
That's a good price.
I presume they are from Eurospares.
Do you mind me asking which ones you went for?
They have different part numbers for the handles and, of course, different prices depending on the model:
Ferrari Dino 206GT..... 20-42-23 (superceeded by 20261400)
Ferrari Dino 246GT.......0200377
Ferrari Daytona 365GTB4......30016307
Ferrari 365GTC4...........253-30-810-02(Right hand)
Ferrari 512BB.......20261400

Similarly for the embellishers:
Ferrari Dino 206GT.......on the parts diagram but not listed!!!!
Ferrari Dino 246GT........20037602
Ferrari Daytona 365GTB4....20037602
Ferrari 365GTC4.......253-30-830-06
Ferrari 512BB.......Not fitted (?)

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Old 21st October 2016, 19:02
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Yes from eurospares. I went for the 365 ones as there were the cheapest!! 51 handles 75 embellishers but vat and carriage to add total 312.
I looked at the item you listed (ebay usa) and according to him they were all the same handle, but just varied in the hole position. As This didn't matter to me the cheapest were fine.One is near mint and looks brand new, it even has the plastic screw inserts-the other is tarnished and wants rechroming. I may get it chromed or possibly return this one and buy a new one (another 55 quid!!).They have also come supplied with the back mounting bracket that mounts them to the door and also has the screw holes to mount the embellishers to the bracket.
The only problem is the embellishers. They have come painted in a tough black crackle finish!! They seem to be stamped from aluminium so I'll talk with them on monday, but this may explain why these were 75 quid as opposed to the dino ones at 175 quid!!
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Old 21st October 2016, 19:15
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hi

I forgot to say that although the handles are the same both sides the brackets are handed-LH/RH.I didn't know this but they sent me a pair. They have different part numbers. The embellishers are identical both sides.. I've included a couple of photo's. Unfortunately I have not unwrapped the embellishers in case I have to return them.
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I went for the 365 ones as there were the cheapest!! 51 handles 75 embellishers but vat and carriage to add total 312.
I looked at the item you listed (ebay usa) and according to him they were all the same handle, but just varied in the hole position. As This didn't matter to me the cheapest were fine.One is near mint and looks brand new, it even has the plastic screw inserts-the other is tarnished and wants rechroming. I may get it chromed or possibly return this one and buy a new one (another 55 quid!!).
Eurospares list a handle for the Ferrari 512BB at 62 (20261400), I don't know if it's the same, it's supposed to have superseded the 206GT Dino one. The 512BB does not appear to have the embellishers and I cant see the handle on any interior pictures so it must be concealed.
I suspect that at the price it will not have the bracket.

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The only problem is the embellishers. They have come painted in a tough black crackle finish!! They seem to be stamped from aluminium so I'll talk with them on monday, but this may explain why these were 75 quid as opposed to the dino ones at 175 quid!!
ian
That's a shame, I was leaning towards a tan interior in my car and black embellishers would not be suitable.



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I forgot to say that although the handles are the same both sides the brackets are handed-LH/RH.I didn't know this but they sent me a pair. They have different part numbers.
I would make my own brackets so I'm only interested in the handles and the embellishers.

I'd be interested to know how you get on with Eurospares when you talk to them on monday.
Good Luck
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Old 27th October 2016, 13:54
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I haven't really had time to call eurospares but I did drop in on my chrome plating guy. The handles supplied are basically in very good condition only really needing a strip back of the old chrome/polishing and re chroming. He's quoted approx 40 so I will hang on to these and get them done when I get all the chroming for the car done.
The embellishers I think I'll keep also has I intend to have a light biscuit finish interior and I think black will make the chrome handles stick out. If it looks terrible I could always strip them and mirror polish them.
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Old 28th October 2016, 09:00
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Hi Ian
Glad you've got the handles sorted.
I'm not a fan of polished aluminium, it seems to tarnish a bit too quickly to my mind, I much prefer mirror polished stainless. The only aluminium I've used is on the engine turned dash of my 250 GTO and I sprayed a couple of coats of clear lacquer onto it to protect the surface.
I could always spray the black embellishers with a tan colour to match the interior...I'll have a think, raid my piggy bank and perhaps an early Xmas present is on the cards
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Old 28th October 2016, 09:14
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Hi Neil

I know what you mean regarding the alley tarnishing. Did you know that you can chrome aluminium now? I didn't! It tends to be expensive as the parts need to be coated or anodised (can't remember now what he told me!!) in something else first, then the chrome is applied on to the coating on the aluminium.
Just a thought.
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Did you know that you can chrome aluminium now? I didn't! It tends to be expensive as the parts need to be coated or anodised.
Hi Ian
I have seen some chromed alloy and, to be honest, it was not as good as chrome on steel in my opinion. As you say the part needs to be zincated (x2 for a better finish) before starting on the normal chroming process so I expect it to be considerably more expensive and not every chromer has the facilities.

You have got me thinking about alternatives however, the cheapest of which would be a mirror chrome wrap.

I might splash out on a 99p sample piece on ebay to see if it will stretch enough into the embellisher without creasing
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Old 29th October 2016, 09:35
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Hi Neil

Some new info for you. I had a spare couple of hours yesterday and started to look at fitting the handles to my door card. After looking at endless dino door photo's and scaling them for size I've marked position and cut the handle into the door card. But I needed an embellisher for correct position as well, so I had to open one up.I really didn't want to open them in case I decided to send them back.But I don't think they are made from aluminium-they are far to heavy. Maybe steel or something else but they appear to be pressed. I may give it a go and soak this one in thinners to see if the paint comes off!!

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Hi there! I am building a Classic Replicas Dino in Athol Massachusetts, USA. I have made my door handles and embellishers from stainless kitchen spoons. They aren't perfect, but I have to draw the line somewhere, as I can't afford to buy everything that I want to. Here is a picture of just the embellisher. I will try to post a picture with the handle and embellisher attached on the car at a later time. All told, I came up with this for about $15.00 each. / Jon
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Very creative, I like it!
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Hi there! I am building a Classic Replicas Dino in Athol Massachusetts, USA. I have made my door handles and embellishers from stainless kitchen spoons.
I'm having one of those "why couldn't I have thought of that!" moments

It's interesting to hear of a Classic Replicas Dino build in the USA. Looks like you are further on in your build than I am Jon.

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Old 1st November 2016, 14:29
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Hi

I had one of those moments too! Even brought a easter egg mould from flea bay ( 6.50) with the idea of cutting it up!

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Hi there! Here are a few pictures of the handles in progress. I bent the spoon stem back around on itself and welded it, so I could drill a pivot for the handle. SANY0580.JPG

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