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Old 11th June 2015, 09:42
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P.S. Thanks for the info Ed, as ever!
My pleasure Scottie, they aren't a gimmick, in your case they are WAY better than all that laser s**t. They work with any car.

I think my original one was made by Laycock, it was about 3 ft long and pretty heavy. I had two, both stolen. I know where there is another but the owner won't part with it.

BTW, I think the Castor IS adjustable, I have the manual somewhere... No matter!
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Old 11th June 2015, 12:24
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I have spent the morning on the car again, and still cannot face having to do the nearside door again, so I have just left it for now, it won't fall off at least!

I have finished the mopping, and got busy with the Mer, the shine has improved and I suffered with "snow-blindness" and had to go and get some sun-glasses!

The temp repair to stop further crack-damage on the bonnet has worked and I have touched it up with paint.

After almost two years of hard work, I decided I would NOT re-spray the car, and would learn to live with the tiny imperfections in the paint-work, so that is why I went ahead with the polish.

Ed, you are most likely right about the castor adjustment, you seem to be right about everything else, and I would not argue with you!

All these companies that build "new" XKSS's, slavishly follow the tradition of the short-nose D Type route, possibly quite rightly, and it just occurred to me that I probably have the only long-nose version of an XKSS in the world!

(Which of course is what I wanted)

And after such a long hard slog have earned the right to a smug smile about that!
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Old 11th June 2015, 12:42
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Curiosity got the better of me! Found the link...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/48540023/G...nsion-Steering

This is an invaluable bit of info for anybody working on Triumph chassis, steering and suspension. Anybody who finds it useful should download the PDF because you never know when these sources may disappear.

The castor settings are near the bottom of the document. Briefly you shim the bottom wishbone front or rear as appropriate to adjust the castor, but need to keep an eye on the camber at the same time.


PS. This link also takes you to other Triumph data.

Last edited by 8 Valve Ed; 11th June 2015 at 12:45.. Reason: Added PS.
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Old 11th June 2015, 19:35
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Thanks for that Ed, I had a quick look and it looks to be all very good stuff. Some of the diagrams I have never seen before!

Very useful as you say.
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Old 11th June 2015, 19:46
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Old 11th June 2015, 20:38
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It's looking really good Scottie I'd love to see it in the flesh one day?
Ed is right about the castor settings I know cos mine are way out but decided to leave them until the car is built with the full weight of the body/frame etc. on the car
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Old 11th June 2015, 20:52
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Hey deggsy, what are the down-sides of having the castor angle too far out?
This area is something I'm not too familiar with.

Where are you based?
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Old 11th June 2015, 21:34
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If the castor is too steep (too vertical or past that) the steering won't self centre and at speed becomes (dangerously) unstable. If the castor is too great, the steering becomes too stable, heavy and less responsive.

The angle is relative to the road surface, so lowering the front or back relative to the other end can affect the castor quite a bit. That's why you should have the car in average trim, usual level of fuel and an average person weight in the drivers seat etc.
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Old 11th June 2015, 21:52
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Scottie are those sidewindows fixed?
If so,where do you put your right arm??????
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Old 11th June 2015, 21:55
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I may have got away with it then Ed, as I have lowered the front and rear about the same, so I should not have affected the castor too much?
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Old 11th June 2015, 22:00
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Rene, the side windows are bolted to the door with six bolts.

Although it only takes a few minutes to take the window off, as Steve McQueen did, because he lived in California where it never rained much.

In England we usually put both hands on the steering wheel when we drive, but it sounds like in Holland you hang one arm out of the window? :-)
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Old 11th June 2015, 22:13
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Usually put my elbow on the edge of the door,my hand can still reach the steering wheel.........must do something to look cool............
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Old 11th June 2015, 22:26
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Looking cool is what its all about Rene, which is why McQueen had one of these cars!

Take a look at this pic, there is a really cool place to put that arm..........

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Old 11th June 2015, 22:35
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I may have got away with it then Ed,
My guess is that the chassis is exactly level with the road in your case Scottie!

It's quite easy to check without any special gear, if you take a brake calliper off, and screw two bolts back where the calliper attaches, with the car level (or as it would be if it were on it's tyres), place a small plumb rule against the bolts, they should be vertical with the steering straight ahead.
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Old 11th June 2015, 22:35
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Scottie Ed answered your question for me (clever s@d) that's why I am leaving setting mine up until its fully built as I've also lowered mine. any adjustments to the ride height will require the settings to be checked. I am based in South wales
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Old 11th June 2015, 22:39
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LOL, On the rare occasions I know the answer to a question I can't keep my fingers off the keyboard!
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Old 11th June 2015, 22:44
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I like the side window chrome trim exactly what I am planning to do to mine great minds think alike wot? though I am planning on using a different windscreen.
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Old 11th June 2015, 23:00
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What screen are you going to use then?
All of the ones I thought of, or other people thought of, were about 5 or 6 inches too wide, which is why I had to make my own!
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Old 11th June 2015, 23:42
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Hillman minx rear screen and the nice man in the scrapyard even cur out the frame for me bit of work to modify as yours was but hopefully I'll have a nice curved screen at the end of it???
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Old 11th June 2015, 23:47
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Ed you under estimate you're knowledge I agree totally with your explanation mine would have been more long winded and not quite as clear nuf said
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