Are you madabout kit cars      
 "We've Got Kit Cars Covered" Information about Madabout-Kitcars.com Contact Madabout-Kitcars.com         Home of UK kit cars - madabout-kitcars.com Various kit car write ups All the latest kit car news Kit car related and general discussion

Search
Manufacturers
Kit Cars
Kit Car Data sheets
Picture Gallery
SVA Knowledgebase
Clubs & Communities
Build cost estimator
Kit cars for sale
Knowledge Base 
KitcarUSA.com
Classic-Kitcars.com
 

Go Back   Madabout Kitcars Forum > Mad Build Area > Miglia Builds and discussion

Miglia Builds and discussion Miglia bodied builds

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #221  
Old 5th December 2021, 15:51
deni deni is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 232
deni is on a distinguished road
Default

Hi all,

Just a quick update. I was waiting for nearly 4 weeks to receive the flexi brake hoses which were on back order at Rimmers. They have now arrived and I have installed them together with new cupronickel brake pipes.

22D2837A-3702-4102-AFCD-8368742F64F8.jpg

89DED6F9-4551-4F2D-8E1A-9BC9647045EB.jpg

FAFD2328-FF05-475C-B6B0-537AA94D938B.jpg

B9BE577F-44BA-47F1-8BA0-D8B65E7CFF29.jpg

B89A4838-7F51-4BDC-B76B-C1147EE8055D.jpg


In the meantime I have done a few jobs. The chassis paint I used previously was not the best one in my opinion, so I have repainted the chassis and the frame with Hammerite.
I know that I won't drive this car much in the rain, but now I have good access, I have wax-oiled the cavities and exposed bits of the chassis before the floor panels are glued and fixed to the chassis.

I have also bought a new 1/4" cupronickel petrol pipe to replace the old one, which is the next job.
Reply With Quote
  #222  
Old 5th December 2021, 16:09
deni deni is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 232
deni is on a distinguished road
Default

Also, I need a bit of advice from you guys please.

I am toying with the idea to install the petrol tank behind the seats, instead of behind the rear axle where it is meant to go now.

The reasons for it are:

1 - I assume that placing the tank in front of the rear axle (between the axles) the weight distribution would be better?

2 - I'm not sure if this is very important - as the petrol tank does not have any baffles inside, the petrol movement inside tank while driving would be less drastic at this position?

3 - Access and maintenance in the future would be better.

4 - I do not have enough space to put the spare wheel in the compartment behind the seats. In that case, I could maybe make a little boot and a compartment in there for the spare wheel.

That's it for now.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this.

Cheers, D.
Reply With Quote
  #223  
Old 6th December 2021, 10:48
Mister Towed's Avatar
Mister Towed Mister Towed is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 5,278
Mister Towed is on a distinguished road
Default

I wouldn't worry too much about the weight distribution, it's going to be pretty front heavy no matter where you put your tank!

From a safety perspective, behind the seats would put the tank closer to the occupants, which is a bit disconcerting, but it would then be further away from the risk of intrusion damage in a rear-end shunt which is a good thing.

Your choice, really
Reply With Quote
  #224  
Old 6th December 2021, 10:54
deni deni is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 232
deni is on a distinguished road
Default

Thank you Mister Towed, much appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #225  
Old 6th December 2021, 22:23
Mitchelkitman Mitchelkitman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: norfolk
Posts: 650
Mitchelkitman is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister Towed View Post
I wouldn't worry too much about the weight distribution, it's going to be pretty front heavy no matter where you put your tank!

From a safety perspective, behind the seats would put the tank closer to the occupants, which is a bit disconcerting, but it would then be further away from the risk of intrusion damage in a rear-end shunt which is a good thing.

Your choice, really
I believe avoiding locating the fuel tank near to the rear is standard in modern cars for the very reason of rear damage. When I had a GTM (fuel tank in front between front 'axle' and bulkhead), a friend said they'd not like a tank in that position..... I responded "at least with it in front I may have some control in whether it collides with anything". They agreed that was a valid point
Reply With Quote
  #226  
Old 7th December 2021, 00:47
deni deni is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 232
deni is on a distinguished road
Default

Mitchelkitman thank you too for your advice. That makes sense, we can't totally control if someone will hit the car from behind.
Reply With Quote
  #227  
Old 7th December 2021, 08:31
Mister Towed's Avatar
Mister Towed Mister Towed is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 5,278
Mister Towed is on a distinguished road
Default

When I joined up we had (Military spec.) Series 2 Land Rovers, which had the fuel tank and filler cap under the passenger seat. We used to joke that Land Rover put it there to make sure they never had to pay any personal injury claims, just funerals which would work out cheaper in the long run.

You had to lift the seat base up to fill the tank and they always stunk of fuel inside due to the inevitable spillages.

The diesel ones were the worst as the smell never dissipated and the front footwells were like an ice-rink due to a generous coating of fuel-oil, which would instantly transfer itself onto the soles of your boots when you climbed aboard.

That meant that the passenger couldn't brace their feet against the bulkhead in corners (see below) while the driver's feet would regularly slip off the highly polished bare metal clutch and brake pedals.

This would leave you kangarooing away from a standstill and then failing to stop at busy junctions because the driver's right leg was wedged between the clutch and brake pedals with their foot on the bulkhead. I'm fairly sure that Land Rover polished the pedals so they could blame the squaddie behind the wheel rather than their feeble brakes when one of their flagship models crashed, which they often did.

The petrol ones weren't quite as bad - your feet only slipped off the pedals when it rained, which was all the time, but at least the spilled fuel evaporated fairly quickly. This would have left the occupants as high as a kite if Land Rover had not thoughtfully provided plenty of ventilation in the cabin.

Unfortunately, they achieved that by ensuring that none of the panels fitted properly so there were huge gaps around the doors and where the canvas roof 'fitted' (I use the term loosely, which is appropriate given how slack they got after an initial nail-breaking period of too-tightness).

This clever design feature allowed plenty of fresh air to circulate in the cabin, along with rain, sleet, snow and midges, which are wee bitey things if you're nae Scottish.

It also meant things could easily get out, like important documents, dropped magazines (both ammunition and porn), vomit and the occasional passenger as the doors would hilariously pop open when cornering hard and nobody bothered to wear the static seatbelts, which were always a tangled mess hanging out of the door bottoms anyway. In fact I do have an ex-forces acqaintance who gets a war pension because of injuries sutained when he fell out of a Land Rover and went under the back wheels.

Anyway, I hope I haven't diverged too far off topic, and good luck finding a place for your fuel tank. I'd just recommend that you don't put it under the passenger seat...
Reply With Quote
  #228  
Old 9th December 2021, 10:54
deni deni is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 232
deni is on a distinguished road
Default

MrT that made me laugh man, thank you.

Reading your story, I can only conclude that if the iconic Land Rover could get away with it, so can I, whatever I decide to do.... but I will definitely cross off the "under the passenger seat" option from my list of possible locations

I hope your build is going ok.

Cheers, D.
Reply With Quote
  #229  
Old 10th December 2021, 08:37
Mister Towed's Avatar
Mister Towed Mister Towed is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 5,278
Mister Towed is on a distinguished road
Default

Glad I made you laugh, Deni.

I'm getting close to finalising my door apertures at the moment so I should have an update soon

Keep up the good work!
Reply With Quote
  #230  
Old 11th December 2021, 10:30
deni deni is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 232
deni is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks MrT, looking forward to seeing how the doors will turn out. They looked great in your recent post.

Cheers, D
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +0. The time now is 13:01.

copyright © madabout-kitcars.com 2000-2021
terms and conditions | privacy policy