New Cordite Build, with a twist....

[Paul L]

Viatron - Those gauges will really help keep your dash clutter free.

Can't wait to see the rest of your framework take shape.

Good luck, Paul.

[Viatron]

That's the other thing I like about them Paul, as well as looking vintage to some degree they will make the layout a simple job. The other thing I like is that they would appear to be very easy to wire up so less work on the electrics, I'm now officially bored with complex electrics, the other project has a stand alone ecu, data logger, electronic dash and a 4 camera video system, the loom in places looks like an anaconda !

[Nike55]

£520 for gauges? That's my entire build budget!

They do look very cool, will enhance the dash and be simpler to fit. Mr T can probably quote chapter on legalities of GPS Mph...

[Viatron]

Oh yes I forgot, come on then Towed tell me how many regs I would be breaking if "theoretically" I was to be silly enough to fit a GPS speedo please?

[CarNoob]

If its not legal for the speedo then I suppose my two 38mm machine guns rocket launcher and revolving number plates will have to come off!!

[Mister Towed]

Originally Posted by Viatron

Oh yes I forgot, come on then Towed tell me how many regs I would be breaking if "theoretically" I was to be silly enough to fit a GPS speedo please?

None that I know of.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/35/made

No mention of it needing to be mechanical or electronic, it just has to work, and must indicate both mph and kph if the donor was registered after 1st April 1984.

It mustn't indicate more than 10% (+4kph) more than the actual speed of the vehicle and must never indicate less than the actual speed.

None of the above is checked on the MOT either, the speedo just has to be present and intact.

I've regularly conducted speed calibration checks on job cars over the last few years - If I've followed and prosecuted someone for speeding, if it's practicable, as soon as possible afterwards I do multiple passes down a quiet stretch of dual carriageway holding the speed at 10mph increments above and below the speed I believe they were doing, while a colleague checks my true speed with a calibrated gun.

So, if it is my opinion that they were going 70 in a 50 limit, I drive at an indicated 50, 60, 70, 80 and 90mph, while a colleague checks my actual speed. We then write statements that show the margin of error between the indicated and actual speeds which gives me an evidential argument as to how fast the motorist was really going (we have other methods too, btw).

The cars have a traditional speedo and a speed reading on the (Garmin) sat nav, and the sat nav has been spot on every time, while the built in speedo is often reading 10mph high at 100mph, showing 110mph on the clock and 100 on the gun. Don't take it as gospel, but I'd trust a gps speedo over a mechanical one any day.

The only drawback I can see with a GPS speedo is that it won't work when you go through tunnels. I'd suggest you get to know what speed you're doing at what revs and monitor your speed that way when it's not working.

Oh, and in eight years as a plod I've had a lot of people contest their speeding tickets but I've never lost a case.

Nice dials by the way, a tad expensive but very nice.

[Mister Towed]

Originally Posted by CarNoob

If its not legal for the speedo then I suppose my two 38mm machine guns rocket launcher and revolving number plates will have to come off!!

Ha Ha. Can't find anything in the construction and use reg's prohibiting the machine guns and rocket launcher, but the revolving plates would constitute 'going equipped' and get you nicked.

[oxford1360]

It should be an offence to have too many gauges..........Cobra owners.

[AndyP57]

RHQ had a very welcome visit from Mac yesterday which resulted in a lot of progress being made with the redesigned Navigator frame. We've just about sorted the rear end and floor supports:





Glad to say that all joints are at right angles where they need to be and holes line up with the chassis We'll be finishing off the rear today and moving on to the front end which has three main functions. Obviously supporting the body shell at the right height, providing a support for the master cylinders / pedals and also giving the steering column some good support.

More photos will follow soon. (And many thanks Mac)

[AndyP57]

More frame photos. The rear is starting to near completion. Just a couple more braces for the fuel tank support and a cross brace on the rear cockpit former and I'll be looking at the front next.

[Nike55]

Some very nice neat metal work.

Will the corners of the frames be 'rounded off' to avoid any potential of damage to the body when fitted, or would you 'pad it' with rubber or builders foam?

[AndyP57]

Thanks Nike. Where possible, the corners should be rounded off but there will inevitably be the odd place that some extra padding will be required. Looking forward to fine tuning it with the new Navigator body

[Viatron]

Nice to see progress, when do you reckon the steel floors will be in Andy?

[AndyP57]

I'd like to get the front frame finished and at least a test fit of the shell and pedals to gauge the clearance of the front floors. Also looking at an idea of putting in a vertical flange at the outside edge to bond the body on to.

[Paul L]

Looks like the internal framework is coming together nicely.

[Viatron]

Thought i would just post an update.
Well things are a bit in limbo at the moment with my build as i have been temporarily seconded to team Ribble to help out with the new Navigator buck, the combination of having a mate who runs a body shop and some free time led to me getting very hands on. Im glad to say that the new buck is now done and im sure Andy will be publishing the details when he sees fit.
This obviously means that i have no body as the the one that has become the new buck was in fact supposed to be mine. It also means that i have no frame as work on that has stopped until the first new body is pulled from the new mould so that exact fit can be assured. Although no massive redimensioning has taken place the efforts put into making the body as symmetrical as time and budget would allow means that any current frame is unlikely to fit well.

Luckily i have the race car to play with so am currently getting the engine and box package together but that means a few custom ally machining jobs for the gearbox to bellhousing adapter and the custome dry sump setup im putting together.
Did have a good day today though as my man cave buddy Dave and i commissioned out new ( to us) mega huge blasting cabinet, doors at both ends and it will take two wheels side by side, the seller threw in a new bag of garnet blasting media as well so we practised by doing a wheel and the water pump housing off the Navigator. Also got round to painting the block of the Navigators engine which came back from the engine builders all in black and needed some brightening up, luckily another side project is my Grayson lathe rebuild for which i bought some blue grey machine enamel, guess what colour the block is now....

Thats all for now

Mac

[Paul L]

Mac - AndyP57 showed me some photos of the body work that was done on his phone at Stoneleigh.

It will be good to see bigger photos and a full explanation when the time is right.

One this is clear though, and that is that you will have a much nicer car at the end of all this.

Good luck, Paul.

[Viatron]

I really hope so Paul, 3 long days of white dust exiting every orrifice on my head must be worth something!

[froggyman]

Well Mac, at least you will definitely be able to say you built the car yourself!!!

[AndyP85]

Originally Posted by froggyman

Well Mac, at least you will definitely be able to say you built the car yourself!!!

Paul has built his himself!!