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adam1979 24th August 2012 11:58

Adam's Cordite
 
Hi folks...

I added myself to the map a few weeks ago, and things are starting to move quickly (for the time being at least). I collected this mk3 GT6 a few weeks ago and now my body kit is almost ready for collection! I need to get moving stripping the bodies and either scrapping or selling them as soon as possible.

Anyway - This i guess marks the start of my build thread - A 1973 Cordite 'GT'. It started with my official garage pass a couple of month ago when my partner bought me a lovely moto-lita wheel to my suprise (thanks Andy for helping her make the perfect choice!).

Hopefully, there are some pictures below...

Collecting the car...
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...9/c780070a.jpg

In the garage (its a little tight at the moment!)...
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...9/9f4dfd5c.jpg

I'll do my best to make regular updates. I'm certain i'll have plenty of questions too! Note the industrial size WD40 is already in use too.

AndyP57 24th August 2012 12:10

Hi Adam, and a warm welcome to you. we're all looking forward to seeing your build and I hope the current Cordite builds here will help you on the way.

WorldClassAccident 24th August 2012 16:51

I had a trailer full of greenery after stripping my Scimitar too

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-q...2013.04.10.jpg

Good luck, I pick up my body tomorrow. Exciting times!

Mister Towed 24th August 2012 18:45

Hi Adam, welcome to the fold and I'm looking forward to seeing a six cylinder Cordite developing. Any idea what colour you're going with yet?

Paul L 24th August 2012 19:27

Hi Adam,

Welcome to the wonderful world of Sammio building. :cool:

If you get the chance, please add your details here:
- Details of Cordite builds

If it helps, you can quote this post to see how the following code works...

Build Thread/Info: Adam's Cordite

I love your simple anti-theft device of dumping another car body in front of the GT. :icon_twisted:

Good luck, Paul. :)

davecymru 24th August 2012 20:13

Hi Adam, best of luck with the build matey.

Dave

Psycho pops 25th August 2012 06:32

:welcome: Looking forward to seeing your progress.
Cheers Pops

lancelot link 25th August 2012 10:38

Welcome.....I guess I will be seeing you soon....

adam1979 28th August 2012 07:54

Productive day in on Monday, although the garage is even more of a tip. The red body stripped as naked as the day it was born. Some stuff servicable, some stuff to sell and a lot of stuff to scrap!

Found the tax disc too - last on the road in 1994. Explains a lot.

Had some thoughts about colour. I really like the old english white look with black wheels and trim but, I work for a certain green F1 team and I could probably get a very cheap paint job if I want green!

Stripped naked...
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...9/5af1f916.jpg

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...9/c62d60ab.jpg

AndyP57 28th August 2012 08:18

Hi Adam, As I said before, I would really love to see the Cordite in your team colours. Whichever direction you go in though it will be unique to you and wwe all look forward to following your build.

adam1979 8th October 2012 08:47

I've finally made some progress this weekend after spending quite a while clearing junk out of the garage and building in storage and a decent workbench (my bench vice is already seeing heavy usage).

I'll post some pictures soon of the now body and suspension stripped GT6 ready for the long road of renovation! Quick work through, with 2 friends, we managed to strip the rear suspension, diff and prop, and both front suspension corners in one afternoon. Main problem though is rusted bolts inside the rubber bush collars. Any tips anyone, or am I just going to have to get medieval on this with some not so medieval power tools?

Also, has anyone got the Canley classics rear hub puller tool? Tried in vain to use a standard puller but not even close. If anyone has one, are they any good and worth the money and/or has anyone got one that they’d consider selling or lending out!?

A few more weekends like that and I’ll be ready to start cleaning everything up and replacing quite a few bits I think. The chassis looks OK apart from the front outriggers probably need replacement but I figure that I can position them to match the frame so not a huge problem!

Mister Towed 8th October 2012 08:58

Sounds like you and your friends are having some fun. All my bolts were fused into the bush inserts too. Tried loads of penetrating oil, hammers, ball joint splitter etc, but noting worked. I just cut them off and replaced the bushes and brackets where they were beyond repair.

Can't help with the hub puller I'm afraid, but I'm sure someone will have one...

oxford1360 8th October 2012 09:01

Ah, the seized bolts in bushes. I couldn't believe how much pressure they would take and still not move. Even after having been soaked in diesel and other penetrators/lubricants.

In some cases I had to put a 1mm disc on the grinder and cut the bolt both sides inside the bracket. Then I just forced out the bush and binned all leftover pieces.

Good luck and looking forward to seeing the pics.

adam1979 16th May 2013 22:22

Forgive me father, I haven't confessed for quite some time!

Since last posting I've been chipping away (quite literally) at all the old bits stripped off the donar vehicle. Bodies were chopped up and scrapped, making space for the new body shell which is in suspended animation hanging from the ceiling and also allowed space to build a work bench and somewhere to store all sorts of stuff that was knocking around in the garage.

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It's amazing how much space I now have without 2 GT6 bodies clogging everything up! I bit the bullet and bought a hub puller from canley classics and I have to say, it's mega. Stripped the rear axles in no time and now have most of the suspension components stripped too. Santa also gave me a parts washer to help me along my way

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9b1ae9ad.jpg

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Here's a random selection of progress of stripping parts and the satisfying moment when I actually have something to show for all the effort! The only real downer so far is after cleaning up the gearbox I found a crack in the casing around the oil drain plug where it's been over tightened - new case or a serious repair required :-(

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A load of parts ready for paint (I'm using POR-15 then a top coat of something like satin or Matt black from a rattle can)

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3360bb62.jpg

...and here's some I did earlier, including the diff.

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps86372e69.jpg

Loving following everyone else's builds so about time I documented mine! Aiming for chassis, running gear and engine ready sometime this year then we'll see after that!

davecymru 17th May 2013 06:10

Nice man-cave! And its good to see you're still progressing :)

Mister Towed 17th May 2013 07:40

Nice work so far. Shame about the cracked gearbox casing, shouldn't bee too difficult to source a replacement though.

Keep up the good work!

oxford1360 17th May 2013 07:44

Looking good, Adam. Keep those pictures coming.

AndyP85 17th May 2013 08:43

Keep it going mate, it's very nice to finally see someone cracking on building the old Cordite! :biggrin:

Viatron 17th May 2013 17:55

Is your gearbox a single rail or 3 rail? If its a three rail I have a couple lying around.
Mac

Paul L 17th May 2013 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam1979 (Post 43475)
Forgive me father, I haven't confessed for quite some time!...

Shame on you, keeping photos of shiny things to yourself. :icon_wink:

Jokes aside, thanks for updating your build thread Adam. :cool:

Can I quickly ask what the grey is on the inside edges of your Cordite shell?

Good luck, Paul. :)

adam1979 18th May 2013 07:07

Viatron - yup, it's a 3 rail with a d-type overdrive. If you have a half decent casing spare that would be a marvellous help. I'll PM you!

Paul L - I think it's bonding paste impregnated into the laminate of the glass fibre. It's in the corners to reinforce them, or at least that is what Gary told me when I collected it.

Viatron 18th May 2013 09:07

Adam, i have PM'd you back

adam1979 28th May 2013 11:49

So, I'm afraid my progress will be mostly mechanical for the foreseeable, but I know everyone likes to see pictures of progress and its a useful record for future builders.

Rocker cover before and after. At one point I had delusions of polishing bare metal but I soon realised that would be the work of a lifetime so resorted to paint instead!

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psad16e0b0.jpg

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psd97ca34f.jpg

Distributor stripped and cleaned. Short panic when I realised its fitted with luminition electronic ignition and couldn't find the power box but that's now safe and sound.

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psb2afed89.jpg

Big tidy up in the man cave resulting in the complete shelf and the clean and ready to paint shelf.

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psb2519fac.jpg

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps73b463d9.jpg

Paul L 31st May 2013 06:07

Your collection of shiny things continues to grow nicely. :cool:

adam1979 2nd June 2013 22:01

Thanks Paul!
Made a trip up to see Viatron on Saturday to collect a gearbox that he kindly offered me. Top chap and had a good chin wag about all things Ribble. I now know all about the 'cut' that my cordite might need too.

The gearbox was only really needed for the casing as mine was cracked. I was daunted by the prospect of rebuilding the box but after I'd built a quick casing jig and an hour or so of disassembly, it's in pieces and ready to swap!

I found the reverse idler was chipped and the main shaft has a bit of play but that doesn't matter as I'm going to use the GT6 internals which I think are in good shape.

So I guess it's as simple as assembly is the reverse of disassembly....!?

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3e22b959.jpg

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psc0c814fb.jpg

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2e88cb74.jpg

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One replacement case to be cleaned up and ready to be reborn with an overdrive bolted to the back...

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...pse79d564e.jpg

Mister Towed 3rd June 2013 05:26

Good luck getting your hybrid gearbox back together again. I guess you'll only really know if you've got it right when you put it in first and dump the clutch...

oxford1360 3rd June 2013 06:54

Time consuming but very rewarding once it's all back together. And, with so many pieces, what could possibly go wrong?
Good luck.

garyh 3rd June 2013 07:43

You make it look easy, all laid out...

tlrtone 3rd June 2013 08:34

looking good..

Another suggestion might have been to look at the ford type 9 5 speed gearbox conversion from jigsaw racing..:wink:

gearboxes are one of those things that always seem mega-complex, but latying it all out and taking loads of pictures as you go should mean it simplifies the assembly!

Paul L 7th June 2013 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam1979 (Post 44121)
... I now know all about the 'cut' that my cordite might need too...

Part of me wants to know more about this.

The other part wants to stick my fingers in my ears & go "La La La, I'm not listening".

:icon_wink:

Good luck with the gearbox, I wouldn't have a clue where to begin.

I can barely get the gears on my bicycle to work properly. :rolleyes:

Cheers, Paul. :)

adam1979 28th June 2013 11:17

So, potentially a lot of progress this weekend but I fear its all going to be 2 steps forward, one step back (as Paula Abdul would say)...

Both gearboxes are now stripped and I think I have the parts I need to rebuild one mega box over the weekend. With a bit of luck i'll have 4 forward gears and one reverse at the end.

Engine stand has been purchased and an adapter plate been made similar to this one so that I can mount onto the side engine mount. I wasn't too keen to hang 200kg+ on a few 5/16 bolts at the back of the engine!

http://club.triumph.org.uk/uploads/m...stand_4769.jpg

Whipped the head off my engine in excited anticipation of getting to work on it (forgetting that I had a gearbox in pieces to put back together first). Hmmm, milky oil in a couple of the cam followers and water where it shouldn't be. Not a major issue at the moment as I'm planning to strip most of the engine and replace where necessary. I would like to avoid re-machining and so far it looks slightly feasible as the bores are in very good condition. We'll see what the sump pan reveals tomorrow!

Paul - I don't think the 'cut' is that bad or even necessary. Time will tell when the body finally meets the chassis. Much admiration by the way - building a car outdoors is not something I could imagine entertaining!!!

Anyone got any advice on clearing out the water jacket in the head/block. They are jammed full of crud (perhaps the reason for water where it shouldn't be!!!)

garyh 28th June 2013 16:08

Jetwash?

adam1979 12th July 2013 08:12

Making sh!t and preparing sh!t for our wedding is taking over nearly all of my time but just before it got busy, I managed a day in the garage. Engine on stand, head off, sump off, fluids drained and all seems to look serviceable. Sat looking sorry for itself but it will soon look good after a good scrub and a few new parts. Photos soon.

The gearbox rebuild was a little less straight forward. I replaced a few parts with new, especially the main shaft tip bearing as that was packed with swarf and had started to collapse. Looked like a poor quality replacement. The cranleys replacement that I fitted was much better. Rebuilding was painful and involved a few hours of assembly and dis-assembly. The Haynes manual just isn't right for the gear clusters that are fitted in my gearbox.

Regardless, it went back together in the end and all seems fine! 4 forward, 1 reverse. 4th a bit clunky but I think that's just to do with the synchro hub springs being a bit stiff. Has more of a race feel getting into 4th. All bolted back together ready for some oil and probably a rebuild as soon as it sees and load!

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps38537d8a.jpg[/URL]

Plenty more photos to follow soon. Hope you are all having fun building or for a lucky few driving in this glorious weather!!!!

adam1979 9th September 2013 11:50

So i've not made a huge amount of progress over the summer as I've been busy getting married and honeymooning. Even so, managed to squeeze a few petrol head related things into both - the wedding car, a 1969 Porsche 911 and the honeymoon car, a 4L Mustang...

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...pse13c09af.jpg

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The past few weekends I've been stripping down the engine and I'm glad that I did in the end as I found some problems that would have bitten me in the @rse after a few hundred miles.

The rear crankshaft thrust washer was installed back to front so was running metal on metal. the result of this is the crank thrust face is damaged. I don't think its beyond repair so I've sent it off to a local machine shop today to be refaced. I might need some custom thrust washer made up but at least I'll know it will be spot on tolerance when its finished!

With everything stripped, I went to work on the block with some gunk and a pressure washer. The water jacket was really clogged up but not anymore. All painted up and ready to rebuild once the machine work is completed.

Before...

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psbe84d48f.jpg

And after...

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps98968b43.jpg

Before...

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psf7a5250c.jpg

And after...

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psc2ed9efd.jpg

And some engine components...

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9383d67e.jpg

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8d918125.jpg

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...pseb976a85.jpg

There is one thing that is still confusing me. The main bearings on the crank are 2.3" diameter, not the normal 2". I did some research and though that I could have a TR6 crank in my engine but the stroke is standard for the GT6. I have heard that the bearings were increased in size towards the end of GT6 production (to bring them in-line with the TR6). Any ideas anyone?

Adam

Paul L 10th September 2013 17:03

Adam - Don't know how I missed this update yesterday??

First of all congratulations for your wedding. :cool:

Looks like you are making steady progress and will have a great engine when complete.

Good luck, Paul. :)

Viatron 10th September 2013 18:31

you really didi like the colour of my engine then :-)

adam1979 11th September 2013 10:50

Ha, yes Viatron, all the inspiration for the engine colour came after seeing your's! Its looks great and really period too. The plan is to have all the running gear black so its only the engine and gearbox casing in that colour.

slartibartfast 11th September 2013 13:17

Congratulations on your recent wedding Adam.
Engine seems to be coming along ... that's something I will be tackling later this year, but mine's only a 4 pot 1147cc.
Keep up the postings ....
Slarti

adam1979 10th November 2013 20:03

In the past few weeks everything has come together for the engine rebuild and although I'll have no idea if I did a good job for a few months yet, so far so good :-)

Cylinder head went away for a refurb which included a skim, unleaded exhaust valve seats and recut and seated valves. The crank was also had the thrust bearing faces cut to remove damage from the incorrectly fitted bearings. They supplied the replacement main, big end and thrust bearings too.

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps343ade26.jpg

Over the past 2 days I've rebuilt and finished the main painting jobs on the engine. It was actually a lot easier than I'd expected with the main problems being stripped threads in the aluminium sealing block (which I'll repair later) and finding and knowing what bolt goes where.

At the end of today (in order) fit the main and thrust bearings and set the crank (its runs nice a freely). Re-fit the pistons with new big ends and set the caps onto the crank (still running freely). Fit the cam, timing chain, sealing blocks, front and rear engine plates, cam cover and chain tensioner kit. Then the oil pump, the sump, head studs and cam followers. Then the head, the rocker shaft (setting the tappet clearances) and then touched up the remaining unpainted surfaces. phew!

Really happy with the end result. I just hope it runs when all the ancillaries are fitted.

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps95a252b9.jpg

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Next job is this beasty! I'll get her blasted before some hopefully minor repairs (the outriggers need replacing) and then I can start the rolling chassis and have somewhere to bolt the engine and gearbox!

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5aec0c52.jpg

Adam

Mister Towed 11th November 2013 07:29

Wow! What a lovely looking engine, well done. Hope it fires first time for you Adam. :thumb:


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