New project - formosa spyder - Page 5

molleur · #1 1st January 2017, 01:16

Excellent, thanks for the info. Very fitting.
Really looking good, lots of effort there.

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New Project-Formosa Spyder

lancelot link · #2 1st January 2017, 10:53

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Originally Posted by molleur

Excellent, thanks for the info. Very fitting.
Really looking good, lots of effort there.

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New Project-Formosa Spyder

THANK YOU ....Yes it started as Spyder but , as the body has slightly along the way , I changed it ...

Swiftmeister .... The current plan as discussed with Mark , the tube man , is to supply the cage with two dropped floorpans and a tunnel incorporated into it ...you fit the cage , then fit a seperate fibreglass rear bulkhead against the rear goalpost section of the frame , the body then lowers over it , very much like how a toy car comes apart ...this will give you a blank canvas to create an interior ...the doorshuts will be deep enough to hide the framework should you want to go the aluminium or trimmed route ..but it will be pretty enough to leave exposed inside a flowcoated , so not obviously fibreglass bodyshell ...

Jaguartvr · #3 1st January 2017, 16:10

Are you joining to fit an engine before shaping the front end?
Would be nice to avoid the unsightly bonnet bulges that look so much like an after though on the Sammio. Maybe start with a straight six, that way the four will have plenty of room.

lancelot link · #4 1st January 2017, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Jaguartvr

Are you joining to fit an engine before shaping the front end?
Would be nice to avoid the unsightly bonnet bulges that look so much like an after though on the Sammio. Maybe start with a straight six, that way the four will have plenty of room.

There is a four cylinder in place in its stock position . Allowing for the proposed 8'' shift backwards , that is about where a 6 will sit ..roughly ...the plan is to have plenty of clearance , so any power bulges in the centre can be kept to a minimum .....any development we do in that area will be for cosmetic reasons , hopefully ...

Mister Towed · #5 1st January 2017, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Jaguartvr

Are you joining to fit an engine before shaping the front end?
Would be nice to avoid the unsightly bonnet bulges that look so much like an after though on the Sammio. Maybe start with a straight six, that way the four will have plenty of room.

Yes, terribly unsightly bulges and scoops. I'm ashamed of the way my car looks. I guess the crowds of people who photograph it every time I park it anywhere are only doing so because they hate it so much. I'm sure Phil and Barry are revolted by the way their cars look too.

And the inspiration, of course, also covered in unsightly afterthought scoops and bulges -

What were Lancia thinking?

lancelot link · #6 1st January 2017, 19:51

I will incorporate whatever the car needs to work ...possibly a second scoop available for the more aggressive look ..its very early days ...there will have to be some sort of bulge in the centre due to the 'inline' configuration ....

Towed , I actually love random blisters and vents , scoops etc... It shows a cars purpose and development ...the scooped vent on the drivers wing of a D24 for instance ...I love it ... the one that starts at the headlight and ends at the cowl ...never found out what its for , but I love it ...

molleur · #7 1st January 2017, 19:48

I don't mind them. The right guy's with a good plan of action will result in a great product in the end. Superior job so far!

Jaguartvr · #8 2nd January 2017, 09:51

It's a bit more than a bulge when you can fit garage doors to the opening.

Paul L · #9 2nd January 2017, 15:41

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Originally Posted by Jaguartvr

It's a bit more than a bulge when you can fit garage doors to the opening.

[Father Ted]

This garage door is small…

This garage door is far away.

[/Father Ted]

retro200 · #10 2nd January 2017, 17:20

brilliant lol

lancelot link · #11 6th January 2017, 20:46

Not lots to see this week ..but some progress made .

Glan has pretty much finished both sides up until the front cowl ...there is some door work still to be done , but both sides of the body are now straight and matching ...

We started to attack the passenger wing and bonnet area , but it became apparent , we needed to settle on final cowl shape before getting too far ahead of ourselves ... so we stepped back to the cowl area with the addition of a bulkhead panel and some levelling up of the cowl area ...

We also tackled the windscreen lip ...This car isn't going to have a seperate strip around the base of the screen , like the S*mmio , Miglia , Cordite etc....but instead a moulded in place integral lip which when combined with a heat formed , pre-bent screen , will leave very little margin for error . two slightly flatter areas in the gap between screen lip and cockpit roll , will also be shaped to accept a small screenpost , so it really couldn't be any easier to locate the screen ..

molleur · #12 6th January 2017, 21:53

Well done!

Paul L · #13 7th January 2017, 11:14

Gary - I used a similar approach for mounting my rear view mirror deflector.

I found I needed the length of metal to act as a big washer, as the holes in the perspex where near the bottom edge and I didn't want any stress cracks.

Good luck, Paul.

lancelot link · #14 10th January 2017, 19:33

THANKS PAUL ......I am not exactly sure how the screens will be fitted yet but they shouldn't be too complicated ..

Glan has been whittling away again ..He has made foam supports to take the weight of the wing section , braced with plywood bolted to the chassis as well ...the amount of punishment these bucks get with filling , grinding , cutting and the sheer weights involved with filler and the eventual mould making , you don't want any of it moving !

On top of this , the cut sections of Z300 bonnet have been jiggled about , the grille opening separated and uprighted , the headlamp area re-shaped slightly ( I am picking my Tribute headlamp buckets up on thursday , so a sliced filler tin is in place at moment and is a bit small ..)

We have quite a lot to do regarding shaping up the wings and the valley between wing and bonnet , as well as changing the grille aperture and bonnet bulge etc..but these pictures gives an idea of where it's going .....

molleur · #15 10th January 2017, 19:46

Really liking the overall shape! Keep up the good work.

phil9 · #16 11th January 2017, 05:28

looking great nice shape .....

lancelot link · #17 20th January 2017, 18:21

SOME MORE STEPS FORWARD THIS WEEK .

Glan has been concentrating on half of the front . A Z300 bonnet section has been used in the centre and a portion of the wings with some re-shaping , the addition of some MX250 headlight buckets and a huge lump of foam and about 6 tins of filler ...

The pictures don't really do the front true justice ...You can't see the wing to bonnet relationship , the nice valley that is running up the inside edge doesnt show in matt filler.....It is very similar to a late 50's DBR1 Aston in the flesh .....but it is looking very pretty .

The buckets have been pulled forward to match the line of the uprighted grill area , they have been trimmed back and fitted creating a lip to affix the perspex covers to eventually ...

Bonnet to body gaps have been gapped at approx. 1.5mm and filled with plasticine to preserve them ...

This pics a weird angle , but it shows the rise of the front wing ...the rise starts at the back edge of the rear door and gently climbs to its peak at wheel arch centre ...

Again , another picture that doesn't highlight it very well ..but the car has a gentle 'coke bottle' line to it as well ..flowing from the front to a 'pinch' at the rear door and gently flowing back out to the rear ...

We are hoping to get the other side mirrored next week , with some fettling and panel seperation etc. the week after ...then primer time !!

I have had some genuine interest in the car from a couple of people recently ..and , off the back of one of those conversations , this was delivered today ...

molleur · #18 21st January 2017, 01:30

Nice!

striker1660 · #19 21st January 2017, 10:56

Looking very good, is the bonnet hump going to be as is or will the entrance/mouth change?

The side lower wing profile have any open area for venting or any o ther detail?

lancelot link · #20 21st January 2017, 12:38

The bulge is having its radius'd edges changed slightly and the front is being added to creating a bull nose , more like a D type , ,or a GT6 if you like ...I am going to do an optioN of a scoop as well , but that will be after we have created moulds , or if someone requests one , it can be modified before the kit goes out ...The scoop would be along the lines of a 625 TRC or a 410S Ferrari style .

The side vent has the option of staying blanked , having its front edge opened up or a series of holes like a 250 SWB , for example , or can be further opened up to reveal more of the area behind along the lines of the mid 50's Ferrari's ..