Scimitar Based 1950's Style Race Car - Page 7

Charman.tech · #**121** 7th January 2012, 17:05

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Originally Posted by Roybo

the way i'd read it is, as long as you look over the screen theres no regs as to what the screen should be made of.i think a better term would be wind deflector,
and a lot of '7' type cars use them and go through the iva tests ok

So does that depend on how tall or short you are or the how tall or short the man is carrying out the test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

davecymru · #**122** 7th January 2012, 17:29

Can you take a cushion?

Mister Towed · #**123** 7th January 2012, 18:41

Let's see. Spitfire Macau order form...

Low level flyscreen - check.

Full face helmet - check.

Too tall head fairing - double check.

Plasticine wheel nuts - why not?

At least it doesn't need windscreen wipers...

Psycho pops · #**124** 7th January 2012, 19:04

Liking the orange parasol, an easy fit I would have thought..

Mister Towed · #**125** 7th January 2012, 19:09

I thought it was an evil killer jellyfish sucking the car up into a parallel universe where too tall head fairings are considered cool...

Mister Towed · #**126** 7th January 2012, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roybo

the way i'd read it is, as long as you look over the screen theres no regs as to what the screen should be made of.i think a better term would be wind deflector,
and a lot of '7' type cars use them and go through the iva tests ok

Yep, I reckon that's a fair assessment as I couldn't find diddly regarding wind deflectors in the Construction & Use Regs.

I also raised the topic at work today and it was generally agreed that it would be an exceptionally 4nally retentive traffic cop that would even consider stopping you to check if it's legal to drive with a perspex flyscreen. Yer average Beat Bobby just wouldn't give two hoots.

I did find a link to an MG site that recommended 'shotgun' glasses as essential eyewear when driving without a full windscreen. I'm thinking of using clear industrial safety glasses and a pudding basin TT helmet myself...

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Roybo · #**127** 7th January 2012, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charman.tech

So does that depend on how tall or short you are or the how tall or short the man is carrying out the test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

obviously i'd imagine they'd use a bit of common sense.
i'd imagine if the inspector was a dwarf and couldn't see over the steering wheel so therefore could'nt look over the deflector,they'd use an average.
or the 7 ft tall and could put his head out of the sunroof of a transit van,i'd
hope they would use an average,
i know they use a piece of wood from the seat to measure seat belt heights
rather than rely on the height of the inspector

Mister Towed · #**128** 7th January 2012, 20:06

Hmm, common sense in the application of the law you say. That's a novel concept...

WorldClassAccident · #**129** 7th January 2012, 21:17

The bit that I am not sure about is whether I need to worry about IVA, MOT or something else.

If I am just rebodying the TVR then it is no different to the standard Sammio Spyder rebody of the Herald. I don't need IVA, it just has to get through the MOT.

If this is the case, can I have a 'quite tall' wind deflector that might look like a windscreen to the uninitiated? That would have the benefit of stopping the stones and spray in the face without needing wipers etc.

Anyone know what the MOT rules are? If I don't have wipers fitted will it fail because they don't work?

Any thoughts or advice welcome

Roybo · #**130** 7th January 2012, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Towed

Hmm, common sense in the application of the law you say. That's a novel concept...

thats true

Nike55 · #**131** 7th January 2012, 23:12

Thanks for clarifying Construction and Use Regs - been a very long time since looked at these..and they have changed.

So you could have a tall-ish screen fitted to a Sammio G46 (like a D-type wrap-around screen) provided you could adequately see over it - hydraulically powered drivers seat then...!

lancelot link · #**132** 8th January 2012, 12:04

Without going over old ground too much - my understanding is basically , you look through a screen and over a deflector.

As far as Mot with a taller screen goes ....you can MOT without a screen at all and fit after the event if you have any doubt....also , the sit upright / extra padding approach can work quite well.

A fixed screen of full height will need wipers and washers , a folding screen like we used to fit on our 1932 Ford Roadster kits ,doesnt need anything , even though you look through it.

The D-Type style screen is probably as large as you would be able to go without wipers , but that screen will be pretty effective.

The G-46 is destined to have side screens to emulate the D-type.

We have made moulds for all the flanges now just waiting for screens to be cut.

WorldClassAccident · #**133** 8th January 2012, 12:34

Cheers Gary I guess the MK1 V8 will get to the screen fitting before me so I will have a look. I want to be able to use the car without a helmet and goggle and still use the motorway.

I know the G46 isn't normally daily driver but I also know that I choose the fun car over the practical too much of the time. I bought the Integra Type R as an occaisional fun car and ended up driving between 30-40,000 miles a year in it for the first three years.

I guess I won't be doing that much in the G46 but it will be used for more than high days and holidays. Turning up as a business consultant in a suit, tie and race helmet might provoke comments from my clients. ;-)

Mister Towed · #**134** 8th January 2012, 17:56

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Originally Posted by WorldClassAccident

I guess I won't be doing that much in the G46 but it will be used for more than high days and holidays. Turning up as a business consultant in a suit, tie and race helmet might provoke comments from my clients. ;-)

I dunno, I used to sell anti-virus software when I was younger while wearing a helmet to disguise my bald spot.

Never did my sales figures any harm.

Here's a picture of me in my company jumper wearing a lid:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...35NyOgiQnKTNAQ

Mister Towed · #**135** 8th January 2012, 18:32

Here in the Nederland we are finding the crash helmet essential for the wearing.

Especially when going to the shopping for special cigarettes which are being legal...

WorldClassAccident · #**136** 8th January 2012, 18:55

Mr Towed - I didn't know they took that picture of me. Hell of a party the night before...

garyh · #**137** 31st January 2012, 15:39

Thought i would bring the generic thread back to the top

PaulC · #**138** 31st January 2012, 16:02

Windscreen -v- deflector and IVA.

IF (I'm not sure it's a requirement, might have missed that bit) IVA is required and you're worrying about wipers and demisters could you not trial fit a very small deflector pending the delivery of your larger one which might arrive (ahem) after the inspection has been passed?

Just thinking out loud like

WorldClassAccident · #**139** 31st January 2012, 17:19

A caravan hair dryer plugged into the fag lighter will be fine...

redratbike · #**140** 31st January 2012, 21:44

just use one of these

http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/product/E...t_Heater_DEMST

Description
Now you can have front screen demisting without the hassle of plumbing-in a hot water powered heater.

This neat little unit has a moulded ABS case with an electric fan and a 168 watt 12 volt heater element.

Simply cut a rectangular hole in your dash top and bond the unit underneath (shown below).

IVA compliance may depend upon your particular installation and may require more than one unit. Size 65mm x 193mm x 87mm with swivel base.

ELECTRIC DEMIST HEATER #DEMST