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Old 5th November 2017, 13:18
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Paul L, davecymry and Lancelot - thank you for the encouragement fellas.
Paul - building The Swordfish outside without a garage will always be a reminder and inspiration. So, like davecymry said, it will be a hat, long Johns, thick fleece overalls and keep going, but I'm not sure if I will be able to keep the door open all the time - not many palm trees here up north ;-)

I will be working on the car tomorrow so i will post some pics soon.

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Old 15th November 2017, 18:38
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Hi all,

Just a quick update. Did not do a lot but I am a bit further nevertheless. I ordered some parts earlier - some have arrived but some are not in stock-these are on back order and should arrive soon. I have ordered new bushes, U bolts and nuts for 7/8" ARB, but somehow I did not include new brackets in the order so I needed to postpone the ARB upgrade. I have ordered these and they should arrive soon. I have also bought upgraded drop links for the ARB.


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I have also bought a heater hose set. I have replaced the top and bottom hoses, but I think that the hoses that run from the engine to carburettors are not of great quality, so I will buy better ones and finish the job when they arrive.


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I am waiting for a steering column to steering rack coupling to arrive, so I can mount the steering column and do some measurements in preparation for welding the plate for the pedals. I have an old bulkhead I will use as a template for a new bulkhead fabrication.
I have cut it down for easier handling.






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I also need to weld additional bars and reinforcements on the frame as well as the bars around the gearbox and around the prop shaft.

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Old 15th November 2017, 19:07
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I have removed the heater box from the bulkhead. I need to inspect it to see if it can be used. If it can be used, it will be cleaned and painted for the installation later on.


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I have bought a reconditioned radiator too. I have now removed the brackets from the old radiator and will clean and paint those too before fitting them to the new radiator.


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I have noticed that the drain hole on the new radiator is not only on the other side (compared to the old radiator) but also larger in diameter, so I will have to order a new drain plug. I have bought a new radiator cap too. I could choose to buy 7psi or 13psi radiator cap - I have bought the 13psi one (I have a Spitfire 1500 engine). I hope that was the right choice.

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Old 17th November 2017, 17:29
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Yes mild steel ...I don't know what Mike used but it should be 25x25x3mm box section ...A length is around 20-22 feet but you will be surprised how much you get through ...I think the original S*mmio frames were about 3 lengths ..
You could get away with 20x20 if you are adding to the existing structure ...if you want some brackets to use as bolt on points ...there are probably some on the existing frame , as Mike used my program at my suppliers ...arch shaped brackets about 50mm wide and some 25mm wide brackets with a hole either end ...I have a selection at the workshop ..happy to post you some ...I use the larger ones as seat belt points too..
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Old 17th November 2017, 20:45
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Excellent advice on the 25 x 25 x 3mm section of mild steel.
You could get away with 2mm thickness minimum, however, the 3mm will be much easier to weld.
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Old 17th November 2017, 22:42
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Paul L, Gary and molleur - thank you for the confirmation and the advice on steel box section. Gary tank you for the offer to post some brackets and it would be great if you would do this. I have PM-d you about it.

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Old 17th November 2017, 23:42
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Hi,

I need some advice please. When I was replacing the heater hoses I've noticed the rubber in the picture below has split. Is it possible to fix/glue this or it need to be replaced?
I have looked in the Haynes manual and Internet trying to figure out the part name/function so I can order one, but no luck. It is located between the manifold and the carburetor.


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And it goes from here:



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My wild guess would be that it has something to do with a vacuum? so the rubber need to seal this point, but as I said it's just a guess...any advice would be helpful and appreciated.


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Old 18th November 2017, 00:23
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try distributor vacuum advance hose
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or vacuum advance and retard elbow.
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Old 7th January 2018, 15:12
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Any progress mate ? did those brackets turn up ok ?
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Old 9th January 2018, 14:54
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Hi Gary,

Thanks for asking mate. Yeah, the progress was a bit slow last two-three months. Work is crazy busy lately and some (minor) health issues were in the way too. My build might be a bit slow due to work commitments, but I will not give up building and finishing the car, that is for sure.

I hope to resume the build in a couple of weeks. In the meantime I have been researching and reading about fibreglassing and I have bought quite a lot parts and tools/stuff for the build, so it's all there when I continue, which should be soon hopefully. I have bought some steel box to reinforce the frame, welding mask, main lights and the assembly for them, etc.

Unfortunately I did not receive the brackets, at least the last time I checked, which was just before the Christmas (the car is at different location to where I live and all the car parcels are delivered there). However, I have been told a couple of days ago that I have an envelope waiting for me, so maybe it's your parcel. I will let you know and thanks again for posting it.

Your Formosa long nose bulkheads look fantastic and I really like how the car is turning out so far. It is well built and will be great looking one too, that's for sure.

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As Molleur says, it's a plastic tube that varies the ignition timing depending on the vacuum at the inlet manifold.

Throttle(s) closed = big vacuum and little ignition advance so it doesn't stall as it slows to an idle. Throttle(s) open = less vacuum and lots of ignition advance so the spark fully ignites the fuel/air mix before the firing stroke piston has travelled back down the bore at higher revs.

Cheap as anything and available from most motor factors so not worth trying to repair.

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Old 19th November 2017, 10:31
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molleur, froggyman and Mister Towed - thank you very much for your help. Mister T thank you for the explanation, I understand the system a bit better now. Thanks for the links to order the parts too.

Mister T I hope your Speedster build is going well - did you started the build thread already? I've enjoyed your Sammio thread a lot, so I hope to read about building the Speedster too.

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Old 9th January 2018, 21:08
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THANK YOU ....It was a padded envelope folded in half from memory , so sounds like they have arrived ....

Good luck progressing with the build ...they are worth the blood , sweat and tears ... I did some work on a Miglia recently , made a few changes etc. and corrected a few issues ..it was starting to look very promising when it went back ...
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Old 18th January 2018, 20:22
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THANK YOU ....It was a padded envelope folded in half from memory , so sounds like they have arrived ....

Good luck progressing with the build ...they are worth the blood , sweat and tears ... I did some work on a Miglia recently , made a few changes etc. and corrected a few issues ..it was starting to look very promising when it went back ...
Gary-Thank you. Hopefully I won't have to work this weekend and will be able to work on the car. Will let you know if the brackets have arrived.
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Old 25th January 2018, 09:32
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THANK YOU ....It was a padded envelope folded in half from memory , so sounds like they have arrived ....

Good luck progressing with the build ...they are worth the blood , sweat and tears ... I did some work on a Miglia recently , made a few changes etc. and corrected a few issues ..it was starting to look very promising when it went back ...
Hi Gary, just to confirm, the brackets have arrived, thanks again mate. I have bought steel tubing, so it is really time to start learning welding (which for some reason I keep delaying).

What kind of changes you have made on Miglia you've been working on, what do I look foor please?

I had a few hours working on car on Sunday and will post the photos over the weekend.

Cheers,D.
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A friend sent me this link.

https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/a...lia-speedster/

Might be of interest to some one.
That looks good the side profile with the chromework certainly changes the look
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Old 18th January 2018, 20:25
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That looks good the side profile with the chromework certainly changes the look
redratbike-thanks for the tip. Not sure about the chrome, but for the rest it's a very good looking car. I will be happy if I achieve a half of that quality.
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I fitted a Miglia body to a Spartan chassis and created a tubular inner frame and bulkhead similar to a Formosa one ...corrected the rear arch mis-alignment on the drivers rear they all suffer from , cut a bootlid in to it and created an inner boot , hung the doors , cutting and correcting the fit and gapping as much as possible , made dropped steel floorpans , changed the grille aperture and bonnet area as well as shortening the headrest ......









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A lot of work was done to the bonnet and shut area ...narrowed Cobra scoop fitted and bonnet pancaked and hinged from the front ...



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