Scimitar Based 1950's Style Race Car

lancelot link · #1 7th May 2011, 15:19

Following on from a subject touched upon on my other thread on here regarding the Sammio Spyders - I have decided to start a new thread covering our new project , The working title is SAMMIO G46 - That might change !

The new body is being developed to fit the Scimitar SE5 chassis and running gear...The SE5 is 99'' wheelbase as opposed to its SE6 sibling that is 103.5'' ...The later version has been adopted by the Hot Rodders as its pretty much Ford Model A or Willys Coupe dimensions , as well as being only 2.5'' shorter than the Ford Model B chassis...we are using the shorter chassis as it is dimensionally more appropriate for our needs being slightly shorter and a few inches narrower as well...This is still a big car though at approx 14' long !

The project is concentrating on body production at present ...it is being built in the same way as the Spyder , a replacement body for a stock Chassis ( no mods at all - many people using these chassis remove outriggers and the fuel tank - not us !! ) The body will rely on the Scimitar bulkhead in the same unique way the Spyder does and the example we are building currently uses the entire Scimitar floor as well - its there , we may as well use it !......The cars will undergo a re-name only , no IVA , still retaining original registration , tax exempt where applicable etc. etc....This body will feature , seperate double skinned doors a bonnet and maybe a bootlid as well !

My colleague and myself have started shaping the body up ...we are using lots of foam strips to get the voluptuous curves of a mid 50's car that I am looking for and work is moving on steady inbetween 'proper' work...

Heres some taster pics , you need to use a bit of imagination at the moment , but I'm really pleased with the way its shaping up so far....

I'm not sure how far these will be developed as a 'kit' yet ....initially bodies and sundries only and we will build some turnkeys as well ....prices are to be confirmed but initial calculations suggest that a full bodyshell with accompanying panels etc in an extra thick layup should be around the £1500-1600 mark

PaulC · #2 8th May 2011, 20:45

I don't know where you find the time.

As with the Herald though I'm wondering about donor availability. Aren't the cheap ones knackered and the decent ones expensive restorations?

lancelot link · #3 8th May 2011, 21:53

Paul ....Having Mike on board has helped ease the workload - still doing 55 hr weeks though most weeks.

The Scimitar based kit won't be as popular as the Herald one - price and build level are different....There are surprisingly quite a few SE5's around ...since we started I have bought 3 ...a nice one for £700 , not so nice £200 and horrid £50 ! I have been offered about 5 others as well ....they are out there.

Both Herald and Scimitar share a similar chassis in design and make it ideal for avoiding SVA/IVA etc....they also both fit into the category of costing more to restore than they are worth restored - keeping prices reasonable for now....

lancelot link · #4 14th May 2011, 14:16

Just left the workshop - we have gotten the bonnet skin in place and Mike was busy gluing foam strips on as I left....

When one side is pretty much shaped up , we will roll it outside and take some better pics...

Roadster · #5 28th June 2011, 04:47

Hi Gary, any update on this project?

I know you are always busy have you managed to roll her forward to get some better pictures.

lancelot link · #6 28th June 2011, 13:30

Hi,
We have been plodding on with this one alongside the 550 ....updates on the recently revamped website.

heres a link

http://www.sammio-spyder.com/sammioG46.html

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST...

mulberry · #7 11th July 2011, 11:45

wow she looks stunning gary, half of me wish i waited and built that scimitar,HEY ANY IDEA`S ON THE SEAT`S,

lancelot link · #8 11th July 2011, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by mulberry

wow she looks stunning gary, half of me wish i waited and built that scimitar,HEY ANY IDEA`S ON THE SEAT`S,

Build the Sammio , run it for a year or so ....sell it ( we just received a deposit on the red one at a sale price of £6750 and thats not as nice underneath as yours is going to be....well £7600 delivered to Stuttgart , actually ) and then build a G-46 .....More than happy to sell you another project , Gary !!!

Roadster · #9 11th July 2011, 20:43

Garry can we have more pics please especially of the rear ok im biased because its the part im waiting for - but i need to keep the creative juices flowing as i pick the resin and glass from my hands.

Nike55 · #10 13th July 2011, 21:30

I love the idea of a 'supersized' Spyder with the G46 project. It looks a little 'D-type ish' and the size of the beast means it will have road 'presence'. There must be very viable market for this type of vehicle. The idea of using a Scimitar as a base vehicle is inspired - it's all there, just waiting for a change of clothes.

lancelot link · #11 14th July 2011, 13:49

THANK YOU ....We aren't the first to 'discover' the Merits of the Scim ...maybe the first to leave the chassis totally stock - not sure....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nike55

...um, anyone know anyone who could re-body an SE5 for me please...

UM....Yes ....give me a call , we are very busy but an ex-employee of mine has set up shop in Newbury and is more than capable...

davecymru · #12 15th July 2011, 08:33

I saw the updated photos on the web site and it's all looking very nice!

I must make sure that i have a good nosey when i'm down next Wed, although i think i'll leave my wallet in the van as i've promised the wife that once the Spyder is on the road in a few week i'll do a few more family things before i even start considering another project

lancelot link · #13 17th July 2011, 15:53

Whilst reading back through this thread , I realised that I hadn't put a picture of the stripped out donor car on...

Its different to the original Sammio - this time we use bulkhead , floor and inner arches , inner cills etc...the new body bonding to the original with a smaller steel hoop frame...

garyh · #14 18th July 2011, 12:43

I guess this will shift a bit...

lancelot link · #15 18th July 2011, 18:56

3.0 V6 / Manual.....not too shoddy ....about the equivalent BHP wise as an MX5 , but with a nice little burble coming from the exhaust......

samwise · #16 18th July 2011, 20:47

For years an Se5 has decorated our drive and now just as it's time for her overhaul to become roadworthy again, my old man showed me this Sammio Project. I'll join the queue for a kit!

Thanks for the fast response email Gary.

garyh · #17 18th July 2011, 20:47

Are there any other cars that you think could be used? my brother really likes the cars you're building but worries about

the age of the Herald.
Gary.

Roadster · #18 7th August 2011, 05:53

Hows she going Garry?
Almost ready to start laying up the moulds yet.

Nike55 · #19 15th September 2011, 21:26

This is really looking an impressive beast - it will have great presence on the road.

It will look brilliant in BRG with brown leather trim, or Italian Racing Red and black trim or SLR Silver with red trim (& twin headrests, chip grater grill...) ...or Squadron Blue or....

Keep up the good work.

davecymru · #20 12th October 2011, 13:01

I think the pressure is starting to show through!