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Old 3rd February 2014, 03:52
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Lightbulb Time to Start a Miglia

Well hello all, once again.

After abandoning my Ribble Pilot late last year, I have decide that having the Vitesse Chassis, Engine and all the new running gear just sat in my workshops, is just a waste.

So I am putting some of Land Rover Projects (seven of them) on hold, and getting ready to make a fresh start on a Miglia Speedster.

micky1mo seems to have got a lot further with my previous Ribble bodywork, than I was ever going to.

I have had the all the out riggers, rails and the extension arms replaced on the chassis, and it is getting shotblasted this week, so painting then building will commence mid March when I am back in the UK.

More stupid questions will follow........

Please also check out my build site www.mikestoys.co.uk
My Build Spec Will Be As Follows (Changes May Occur During Build)
  1. Vitesse Based MKII Rotoflex
  2. 2-Litre 6-Cylinder
  3. 4-Speed with Overdrive 3rd/4th
  4. Miglia Speedster Body in Rossi Red
  5. Chassis in Off White / Cream
  6. Interior in Tan / Land Rover Series Deluxe Seats (Re-Upholstered)
  7. Wheels at Present will be Spun Disc Wheel Covers (but this may be changed to Wires!!)
  8. Electrics Complete New Loom
  9. Dash (GPS Speedo / Analogue Electronic Gauges)
    More to follow

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Old 3rd February 2014, 22:13
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Good stuff! looking forward to watching
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Old 4th February 2014, 04:42
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Thinking about the colour the car.

I am going to go with Bright Red (Rosso), looking for inspirational colour combinations, I found this beauty a 1949 Roselli Colli (poss Fiat) http://www.cristianoluzzago.it/cars-...li-colli.html#, have never heard of these before.

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Bodywork - Red



Cockpit - Silver (pos) with Tan Seats or all tan interior as this Fiat Barchetta
http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car...ex.html?ret=63



Wheels - Haven't decided wires or standard with disc covers caps

Just not sure what colour to do the chassis and frame - black or silver or white.

Thoughts please.
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I like the idea of white... are you brave enough? I love the tan interior and covered dash. I suppose wires are the way to go, even though i'm keeping steels.
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I am wanting to go with white for the chassis and frame, I think with the tan and red paint work it will work, just can't 100% convenience myself.

For the wheel I was thinking of trying the a set of moon (metal spun) wheel trims, see what they are like, if I don't like them then I will go with wires.

On another note do you know if it is legal to use GPS speedo in the UK, also I am think of using a SpeedHut gauges.
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I am wanting to go with white for the chassis and frame, I think with the tan and red paint work it will work, just can't 100% convenience myself.

For the wheel I was thinking of trying the a set of moon (metal spun) wheel trims, see what they are like, if I don't like them then I will go with wires.

On another note do you know if it is legal to use GPS speedo in the UK, also I am think of using a SpeedHut gauges.
White chassis with red paint will look very period imho. Go for it!

I like the idea of moon discs coupled with narrow tyres, very Bonneville salt flats speed trials. Go for it!

The construction and use regulations require road vehicles to have a speedometer that's visible and well maintained, but there's no mention of whether it needs to be mechanical or can use the GPS system. This means that legally you'll be fine with a GPS speedo, it just won't look very fifites. Erm, go for it if that's your bag.

There's further legislation regarding accuracy - it should never show a lower than true speed and must not read more than 110% + 6.25mph of actual speed, but I've never known anybody actually check that. It shouldn't be an issue with a GPS speedo anyway - in my experience of doing speed checks on patrol cars using a laser speed gun the sat nav's speed reading has always been dead on while the in car speedo typically reads at least 10% high and gets more inaccurate the faster you go (showing 66 at an actual 60mph, 115 at a true 100mph etc).

Just remember that if anyone ever decides to check your GPS speedo accuracy they won't be able to do it on a rolling road...

Some useful links below -

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/35/made

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/36/made
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Thanks T for the advise.

This is the gauges I am thinking of using, I think they look quite period, also think of a pair for my 1962 Land Rover.

Day (top) and Night (bottom)


Spun Wheel Trims (if they don't look right I will put wires on)

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Not seen those before, they do look pretty good. What size are they?

Oh, and that speedo would only be legal fitment on a pre 1984 donor as it doesn't also read in kph.
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There are 4 1/2", my Vitesse is a 68 or 69 forget which it on a "G".

They even have the indicators built in.
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Has anyone used on of these:-

CBS 12 Circuit Wiring Module
Part Number: WRMOD



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Hi again, Not used one of these specific looms. We use the Langy's (Rebel) 8 Circuit looms (http://www.langysrodshop.co.uk/wiring_kits.htm) and can vouch for them (They also do looms for 9+3 and 20 circuits) . They will be standard fit on all our turnkeys rather than battling 30+ year old Triumph looms.

As well as being colour coded, they have the feed printed on them every 6 inches! (e.g. Left HL Main Beam, Right HL Dip Beam)
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mas123mas - Good luck with the Miglia build.

There are some wheels with disc covers in the latest Ribble News photos, and I really like that look.

( My Spitfire donor came with new alloy wheels & tyres, so I'm using them. )

Good luck, Paul.

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Have you read Mac/Viatron's build thread?
He has fitted some sort of new wiring loom ( I think it might be the one Andy is talking about).
I'm also pretty sure he is fitting the same, or very similar, gauges too.
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Yep using the same gauges

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...?t=3501&page=7

Good choice though

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[QUOTE=mas123mas;51836]Has anyone used on of these:-

CBS 12 Circuit Wiring Module
Part Number: WRMOD

Yes, I have.

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Yep using the same gauges

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...?t=3501&page=7

Good choice though
Have you purchase or received them yet?

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Hi again, Not used one of these specific looms. We use the Langy's (Rebel) 8 Circuit looms (http://www.langysrodshop.co.uk/wiring_kits.htm) and can vouch for them (They also do looms for 9+3 and 20 circuits) . They will be standard fit on all our turnkeys rather than battling 30+ year old Triumph looms.

As well as being colour coded, they have the feed printed on them every 6 inches! (e.g. Left HL Main Beam, Right HL Dip Beam)
Cheers Andy, Have you a copy of the wiring diagram, and how long are the wires in the loom, the kit I was looking at the just the fuse box, no wiring!!! so this seems a better option (might also use on the Land Rover depending on the wire length).
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Just finalising the Logo before ordering the gauges.
I looked at the CBS module but the loom from Langy's was not much more and included all the wiring, I haven't installed my loom yet but all the spurs look to be long enough.

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Just finalising the Logo before ordering the gauges.
I looked at the CBS module but the loom from Langy's was not much more and included all the wiring, I haven't installed my loom yet but all the spurs look to be long enough.

Mac
Thanks, emailed Langy's and they said "these kits are universal so will be fine for a 22ft Cadillac so you won't have any problems."

I am going to order two 20 circuit one's, I know this is an over kill, but at least I have over capacity for future idea's.

I am putting heated seats, electric fan, fuel pump, radio/aux chargers etc....

I've requested a copy of the wiring diagram, so I can plan a few more bits in detail, just wait for a response. If they are as good as they look I will get a few more for my other Land Rovers as these are 1/4 the price of just the wiring looms.
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The FAQ says that the front Left and Right looms are 15 and 18 feet respectively and the rear are 18 and 24 feet so there shouldn't be any problem with any of your projects.
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For the wheel I was thinking of trying the a set of moon (metal spun) wheel trims, see what they are like, if I don't like them then I will go with wires.

Why not try a set of MGF alloys, I'v fitted a set to your old Pilot and I recon they really suit the car.

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