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Old 28th August 2018, 16:55
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I think these prices stand up well - in terms of £per smile. But it is a buyer's market so anyone is free to bid or not bid.

Of course, eBay made the whole bid process more secretive, so it is hard to identify shilling nowadays, but at the end of the day one should bid what one wants to pay, no more, and then win or lose.
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Old 28th August 2018, 18:45
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https://www.ebay.de/itm/SAMMIO-SPYDE...p2047675.l2557

auction ended with reserve not met....but a slight indicator how much people are willing to pay when there isnt anybody pushing the bids (shill bidding) or using any other "tools" for pushnig the price.
Thats correct, 3147 hits 278 watchers , which is a personal best !!
Followed by several offers at auction end, which seams to be normal in these cases.
I have now sold the car to a French classic car dealer for a lot more than the reserve and I have no doubt he will sell it on to a customer for a even bigger return on his investment. After all that's what car dealers do !!!

But I agree with oxford1360 another massive yawn.
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Old 29th August 2018, 12:37
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Good news re your sale - I was surprised at it not going on eBay - was it just on the German site?

Anyway, nice to see the sales happening for you guys.
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Old 30th August 2018, 08:46
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Marc F I think it was on E-Bay world wide as one of the bidders was based in Mexico
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Old 30th August 2018, 08:48
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Would so love to have seen photos of one of our cars in Mexico!!!!
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Old 31st August 2018, 11:23
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JayPorters car seems to be attracting a lot of attention (must be all of the shill bidding? <- JOKE! )

There seem to be a few interested bidders and hopefully as I've listed my car for what i want for it, that should make the bidders of Jay's realise what a bargain they are getting and bid more? (Fingers crossed for you matey!)


With that in mind, i have finally relented as i never felt totally comfortable with my original advert text. Yes, i know the theory and how to market these cars has been discussed on here at length, but that advert simply wasn't me and so i have reworded mine to an ad i am now comfortable with.

I accept that others may have stuck it out and done it differently, and i totally respect you for that, and whether this affects me positively or negatively i don't know, i just know that i am happier having conversations with people based on what it's listed for now.

Fingers crossed!
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Old 31st August 2018, 12:15
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Sorry Dave - I hadn't realised yours was up - where is the ad?

I take that back. I have now managed to find it (my eBay search skills as rubbish as usual).

Yep, your pricing seems fair tome for a unique, well built (by hand) specialist niche car. Your build thread shows the attention to detail you put into it, so I wish you well. Sadly, out of my reach, but that doesn't make it the wrong price for your car, as even if I cannot afford it, it doesn't mean I cannot appreciate it.

Sadly, I think the detractors don't understand how much actually gets spent on these cars - donor, parts, paint etc, let alone the man hours. Perhaps if they tried to build one (as I am doing) they would have a more realistic sense of what they are "worth".

All the best - can't wait to see what you build next. Don't forget to announce it here please

Marc

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Old 6th September 2018, 10:17
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<BIG Sigh>

Well despite being live for a few week and having worded my advert VERY carefully as i was aware of the Ferrari ad issues, it seems that i too have fallen foul of e-bay's paranoia police by stating that i was inspired by the racing Maserati's and Lancia's of the 1950.

.... um ..... i was!
And i made no claim to the vehicle being a replica of either!

But the rules is the rules, so i've had to rewrite my advert and the new one is now up:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302872635595

<fingers crossed>
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Old 6th September 2018, 11:21
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Do they charge you each time you relist, or do you get a free pass if they don't like the first ad? But what happens to people who want to sell an actual replica - like a Cobra. How can you advertise that? EbAY - go figure.

Anyway, good luck again. From what I gather, the big £'s are obtained from overseas buyers - us Brits are skinflints...
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<BIG Sigh>

Well despite being live for a few week and having worded my advert VERY carefully as i was aware of the Ferrari ad issues, it seems that i too have fallen foul of e-bay's paranoia police by stating that i was inspired by the racing Maserati's and Lancia's of the 1950.

.... um ..... i was!
And i made no claim to the vehicle being a replica of either!

But the rules is the rules, so i've had to rewrite my advert and the new one is now up:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302872635595

<fingers crossed>
Crazy....that they should quote the rules (when you haven't claimed it was one of the cars) yet they allow V5 documents (property of DVLA) to be openly advertised, and despite complaints Ebay won't remove them.
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Old 6th September 2018, 16:25
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Having read their rules all I can see is if one were to stick a Ferrari badge on it. Did they give any guidance as to why "inspired by" was not acceptable?

And yep. just checked. Loads of Cobra kits on sale, most with the AC badge

Check out this one - it actually proudly declares its status as an authentic replica, that was produced in limited numbers before Shelby threatened legal action.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1957-AC-C...MAAOSwG9Zbf1Z4

"This BRA 427 7.0 FORD V8 is one of the rarest Cobra replicas out there.Only 38 were produced thirty years ago before Shelby threatened BRA with legal action due to the 427's similarity to the real thing "


What am I missing here? Or is it about if someone complains?
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Old 7th September 2018, 06:51
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I too have fallen foul of ebay's paranoia police by stating that I was inspired by the racing Maseratis and Lancias of the 1950s.

.... um ..... I was!
I simply don't understand the inconsistency. When I sold my pre-lit Westfield I described it as a 'Lotus Seven Evocation', likewise my A352: a 'D-Type Jaguar Evocation'. Both are current vehicle manufacturers who doubtless have intellectual property rights lawyers. Perhaps some see imitation as the sincerest form of flattery, or maybe ebay hasn't got through its list yet?

Anyway, good luck with the sale Dave

Regards, Mick
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Old 7th September 2018, 13:18
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Spotted this for sale at Beaulieu.







Priced at 14,500 Euro.
Any one know it!!
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Old 7th September 2018, 14:07
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Very nice.
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Old 7th September 2018, 20:12
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A car that Mike at Miglia started for the German customer he built the first Miglia for ...Mike never completed it and refunded the German guy selling the car to a local guy in Swanage ...he did very little and sold it to Bisto34's German customer who employed Dave ( Bisto34 ) to finish the car for him .....
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Old 7th September 2018, 21:06
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I simply don't understand the inconsistency. When I sold my pre-lit Westfield I described it as a 'Lotus Seven Evocation', likewise my A352: a 'D-Type Jaguar Evocation'. Both are current vehicle manufacturers who doubtless have intellectual property rights lawyers. Perhaps some see imitation as the sincerest form of flattery, or maybe ebay hasn't got through its list yet?

Anyway, good luck with the sale Dave

Regards, Mick
A work colleague built a Tribute Kobra a few years ago then sold it , eventually, through ebay. His ad was removed because someone in the Cobra Club made a complaint about his listing describing it as a Cobra replica. At the time there were several Cobra kits listed, as replica's, so my colleague asked ebay to remove them all, but they wouldn't !! Apparently his Kobra wasn't accurate enough to be described as a replica, according to the Cobra Club complainant !!
So there are some double standards going on here, or what ??

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Old 7th September 2018, 22:39
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If it is shown on the V5 as a Cobra I don't think they could complain, if it is shown as a Kobra then it would have to be listed as a Kobra, 99% of buyers searching for a Cobra would miss it. Don't register it with a misspelt name.
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Old 7th September 2018, 23:23
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His Kobra was registered as a BMW Kobra on the V5. None of the Cobra replica kits past and present will be called a Cobra by their manufacturers. However, they are all Cobra replica's, that is exactly what they are.
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Old 9th September 2018, 18:08
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I really HATE selling cars! Im not a salesman and i dont have the inclination towards sales.

So while ive had some lovely messages and some very interesting offers (including one for a stunning Jag that i was very tempted to accept) ive also had some very negative messages and it makes me wonder why they even make the effort just to tell me how stupid/deluded i am.

So i think that im going to give it a few more days and if it doesnt sell or i dont get a realistic offer them im going to pull it.

If anyone can recommend any companies that can sell cars on the owners behalf then please ley me know as i very nearly told the last ..... where he could stick his negative and factually incorrect message.
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Old 9th September 2018, 19:16
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Try a free ad on Classic & Sports Car. A better audience all round.
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