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Old 16th June 2015, 19:13
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Default SAMMIO SPYDER to RELIANT SS1 conversion.

SAMMIO SPYDER to RELIANT SS1 conversion
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Old 16th June 2015, 20:03
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Cocked that one right up

So to start again.

I have at last been given permission the list this conversion on this forum .

This whole thing started in Ribble HQ.
I belive it was Gaz Davies who started it but when the workshop was being cleared out it was offered to me.
I was told is was complete and as it had a type 9 gearbox, galvanized chassis and a pair of very nice aluminium "boomer" seats so I agreed.
But with all thing Ribble what I got was not what I was expecting, surprise surprise

The original SS1 body was cut down and the tub very badly cut,widened by about 5" and badly re-joined, there was plenty of parts missing and the "boomer" seats disappeared as well.
The whole thing looked terrible so it was pushed into the corner of my workshop and left.

For some reason I am unable to upload photos from photo bucket so I'll try again tomorrow
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Old 17th June 2015, 06:33
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here we go.




The car was cut down to brake master cylinder level with a VW tank fitted.



Body was widened along with the bonnet.



The body was way short. and fitted where it touched.
On the whole it looked awful and a lot of work but my little mate took a shine to it so work (on a casual basics) commenced
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The body in place.




For some reason the whole thing just didn't look right but we carried on regardless

We, removed all the welded sections, or should I say knocked the off with a hammer



Replaced the fuel tank with a late spitfire tank. This meant the original Reliant fuel lines could be plugged striate into the new tank with no modifications and a much easier run for the fuel filler pipe .



Then much effort to put some strength into the chassis. We done this by welding around the "a" and "b" door posts.
Here's a moon buggy image juts for Mr T





still if didn't look righ or sit right
Then we lowered it and wow the difference was a massing.



The next job was to "adjust" the body to fit, much work went into getting the back end to fit.



The front of the body was still a problem because of the gap between the scuttle panel and the steering column .



And then there was the bonnet.
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It all looks very easy but this has taken weeks to work-out as every thing is bespoke to this car.
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Old 17th June 2015, 08:16
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Interesting thread, is it a customer car or a personal challenge?
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Old 17th June 2015, 08:33
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Good luck with the build Mike. It was my idea to build it but I didn't do any work on it so can't comment on any possible challenges that you may face. I still think that it will look fantastic once done and really look forward to seeing it progress.

Oh and it is REALLY nice to drive also!
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Old 17th June 2015, 09:08
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Mr Towed- - - it started as a Ribble disaster, then a project for my "apprentice" but he fell in love and moved on
Due to a failed project it's now on order to go to France ASAP hence the rush.

Gaz- - I know you where involved some where but as I'v said nothing from Ribble surprises me anymore.

We have driven it around the yard and it fells fantastic.
This is no surprise as the chassis was designed to have a fiberglass body right from the start, although this body is a few hundreds kilos lighter.
I think this will end up being be on of the best road going Sammio's built, independent all round suspension, duel line braking with servo, modern Ford engine, 5 speed gearbox and a correctly designed chassis!!!it's a no brainer

In fact, if I was out to build a SAMMIO SPYDER for myself I would start with an SS1, the only change I would make is to find and use the Nissan turbo version!!!!

That said I'd hate to build another one .
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Old 17th June 2015, 10:28
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The bonnet!!!



Not only was it to narrow but also too short.




After much trial and error we decided to start again.




NOTE - - the brake fluid cap sticking through the bonnet.






The new owner wanted a scoop although there plenty of room under the bonnet.
I also cut the bonnet sides to make fitting easier.

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A simple hinge arrangement and a bonnet brace.


Again all looks easy but
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As I said earlier on major problem is the gap between the scuttle panel and the steering wheel.



Well here a future SAMMIO product (as I don't have any products now).




It's not finished but it usable. The finished product will be in two pieces, the pod and the dash being separate . The dash can be bonded in place so the pod can be placed where the builder wants R/H or L/H or in the centre.
I will try and have the dash built-in on the new SPYDER (when I have a product), the pod will then be separate item like the screen surround.

First fit,



Final fit,



I think this "dash panel" transforms the whole look of the cockpit area. Making the cockpit look less like the top of an empty bucket and more like a racer

TBH, I think we stole the idea from Mr T
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No problem. As it happens I'm rather pleased with my own (Porsche 550) dash as it does take the car a step further away from the kit car look imho -

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I didn't realize just how similar the dashes are
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Quote:
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It that a radio speaker and an aerial I can see!!
Where the head unit?
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Yep, I fitted a stereo initially so I'd have something to listen to while I waited for the RAC at the roadside.

The head unit was under the dash ahead of the gear lever -



...a Clarion double-din unit I chose because it didn't look much like a stereo.

It was really powerful and worked fine right up until I dropped it during the final fit of accessories after paint, and I've now removed it.

I haven't bothered having it fixed or replacing it as the engine makes plenty of music. The car's also only broken down the once and that was a modern electronic ignition module that failed, so it's clear that the car, in Christine stylee, doesn't want any modern electronics fitted to it.





At the end of this summer I might just remove the aerial and the speakers as they're redundant now.
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Spent more time today on the interior.
Speaking to SIMJIM I decided to lower the floor pans thus lowering the drivers seat.

The before shots





If you look closely you will see the drivers foot well is lower than the passengers foot well even though the seats bases are the same.





The pans where cut out and the thin seat supports remove to be replaced with some 50x20x3 box section.
Up until now I have only been working on GTE's and I was surprised just how thin the floor on this SS1 was compared the GTE's floor.



These where welded into place



I remade the floor pans from 12mm ply which was covered in 300g fibergalss matting.


After fitting the new flooring I laminated around it again with 300g matting.



Both pans where now the same height and level with the bottom of the sills lowering the seats by about 4".
Now the floor pans are lowered the exhaust needs to be reworked as it originally ran under the passenger floor.

I am hopping this is the last major modification job I have to do, apart from re-trimming and re-fitting the bonnet that is
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Spent the day filling in the gaps around the edges!!!




Also fitted the lights just to see what they look like



Still undecided on the front indicators
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Spent more time today making good.
Forgot just how far the rear wheel arches are out
The good one.

The bad one.

The amount of "adjustment" needed.


Made a very simple exhaust, out of the manifold, along the car, into a silencer and out the back.


Also sorted out the dash clocks ect.
This dash style will soon be available for the Sammio Spyder


All coming along nicely
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The dash looks good.

But the less said about the original Cordite arches the better.

Good luck, Paul.
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Bolt on bits in west Yorkshire keep those led's and they are e marked last time I went they had clear, amber, both with or without a chrome bezel. I have had them on my Jeep for years front and repeaters and no bother with MOT.plus they are fully waterproof. You do need a resistor to fool the flasher unit though. Bolt on bits have an eBay shop if you search rdx land rover in eBay that is there brand then click on sellers other items. I will add a link if I get enough signal I am currently camping in a field near Whitby with very poor mobile coverage. They are not the cheapest but they seem to sell good quality and a good selection of led. Ed
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Here you go.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Button-12v...item5405ca23a0
And the chrome trims
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chrome-Tri...item35cbb31e84

Hope you like them.
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Many problems and issues have surrounded this car's build which is why the postings on this thread stopped.

That said the original car was finished on 31/03/2016, then placed in storage on 21/06/2016.

Now, after muck trouble and strife, over a year of abuse in storage and several weeks of restoration work it's road worthy again.

This was done becaue IMHO I think this is still the best "driving" SAMMIO built to date. Not the best SAMMIO ever built, but the best "driving" SAMMIO so it's worth saving.
The reason for this is simple unlike the traditional TRIUMPH donor this has a strong galvanized chassis (which was original designed to take a fiberglass body-tub) at it's core along with all around independent wishbone suspension, 4 pot servo assisted duel line brakes, reliable 1600cc XR3 engine, 5 speed gearbox ect, ect.
Again it's only IMHO, but as for the SAMMIO styling look for yourself







The two chrome blips under the filler cap are extra LED brake lights. My felling is as the real tail/brake lights are very low they wouldn't be seen very well in nose-to-tail traffic were as the higher LED lights would. They also help disguise the plinth for the filler cap.







Note the "recycled" cam belt as a bonnet strap





We took it for a spin recently and "yes" it's still the best SAMMIO I have driven to date, even though I'm to fat for the seats
I should also point out it's a Cordite body not a Spyder body
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